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Is it just Ruby with Filipino words?

murph-almighty 9y ago
Even if it is, this might be the first time I've seen a programming language that isn't based in English (aside from the more esoteric Brainfuck-esque languages for code golfing).
- supergreg 9y ago
  I've seen a couple of Spanish versions of Python out there, just novelties, never seen them move beyond a proof of concept. There's a whole bunch of esoteric programming languages that don't use English, just like Brainfuck. [0] [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_programming_language https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_programming_languag...
- pjmlp 9y ago
  Back in the 80's there were a few variants of Basic and Pascal in Portuguese.
- googamooga 9y ago
  At my school days in 1980s we used to write programs using RAPIRA (russian: РАПИРА) programming language on AGAT microcomputer. RAPIRA was an original programming language with Russian keywords. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapira https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapira
perfmode 9y ago
A language with Internationalized keywords would be pretty dope.
- AugustJok 9y ago
  What would be the point though? I feel like that would only increase misunderstandings . Like searching for documentation or help online on that function.
- nuclearcookie 9y ago
  That's what they do with formulas in Excel. There it sucks HARD. Try googling for documentation on StackOverflow for example. Anything you want to copy paste doesn't work because Excel is expecting the commands in a different language.
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    It only sucks for us, that are used to English as "programming language". Many Office users only speak their native tongue, are quite happy with the translations and don't even know that StackOverflow exists. They rather buy books, https://www.fca.pt/en/catalogue/computer-science/office/page/ https://www.fca.pt/en/catalogue/computer-science/office/page...
  - dx034 9y ago
    If you google in your native language you'll get results in that language. I agree that it takes a bit to relearn all formulas (and I find it too confusing to use different versions at the same time) but when I was still using a non-English version I had no problems finding solutions. I think it was exactly the right thing to do. Excel formulas are often used by people with little knowledge of programming who aren't aware that "if" is a common keyword. Using the local variant makes formulas much easier to understand (and to get people closer to actual programming).
    - Nullabillity 9y ago
      And now you need to maintain hundreds of variants of each SO answer.
    - nuclearcookie 9y ago
      I agree it's a good move from Microsoft to make Excel more accessible. It's just not something I was expecting the first time I stumbled upon the problem. I have a programming background so I'm used to searching everything in English, even though that's not my native language. I inserted sqrt() in my non-English Excel and it didn't work. I thought I had a completely broken version of the program. Took a while to figure out it was a language problem!
- dagw 9y ago
  You just described Excel, and I can assure it is anything but "pretty dope". It is in fact a monstrous pain in the ass.
- flohofwoe 9y ago
  I don't know, for me as a non-native speaker the words in a programming language are just memorised tokens, they could just as well be symbols or emojis. The bigger deal is libraries and documentation. For instance Microsoft is attempting to localise all their SDK documentation, and at least for German it's a nightmare, either the translations are done by non-technical people, or algorithms, sometimes the information is twisted in a way that reads like correct German, but doesn't contain any useful information, or is even plain wrong.
  - rplnt 9y ago
    > they could just as well be symbols or emojis I'm sure they will...
    - Raphmedia 9y ago
      You can already use emoji in JavaScript. There's also http://www.emojicode.org http://www.emojicode.org
- skybrian 9y ago
  I can't find anything about this on the web, but didn't AppleScript originally do this?
wyclif 9y ago
In the Philippines here. I'm a native English speaker and my Tagalog is pretty bad, but it looks like it's Ruby with Filipino syntax.
- dota168 9y ago
  It is just Ruby. Everything is just alias-ed: e.g. https://github.com/jjuliano/bato/blob/master/lib/bato/core_ext/array.rb https://github.com/jjuliano/bato/blob/master/lib/bato/core_e...
  - isxek 9y ago
    Indeed. The submission's title should then be changed perhaps to "Bato - the Ruby programming language in Filipino/Tagalog," or perhaps "Bato - Ruby made Filipino/Tagalog."
domenukk 9y ago
Esperanto would be nice
- tjalfi 9y ago
  There was a programming language with Esperanto syntax. I have to leave for work but I'll respond later with the name if no one else posts it.
  - tjalfi 9y ago
    I searched yesterday but wasn't able to find the reference.
panyang 9y ago
Tagalog speaker here. Yes, it is. edit: Bato -> stone. Ang 'Bato Programming Language' ay isang scripting language sa wikang Filipino. -> The Bato programming language is a scripting language in the Filipino tongue (T/N: or more specifially, Tagalog). --- More interestingly in the following section: Bakit Bato? -> Why call it Bato? Ang 'bato' ay hango sa Ruby Programming Language na may Filipino sintaks. Ang kadahilanang ginamit ang pangalang 'bato' ay dahil ang Ruby ay isang uri ng bato. -> Bato is made with Ruby using Filipino syntax. The reason to use the word "Bato" as a name is because Ruby is a kind of stone.
bluedino 9y ago
In the first BASIC programming book I ever read, there was a program to change all the keywords from English to Tagalog, to help a Filipino student who didn't know English.

Even if it is, this might be the first time I've seen a programming language that isn't based in English (aside from the more esoteric Brainfuck-esque languages for code golfing).

supergreg 9y ago
I've seen a couple of Spanish versions of Python out there, just novelties, never seen them move beyond a proof of concept. There's a whole bunch of esoteric programming languages that don't use English, just like Brainfuck. [0] [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_programming_language https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_programming_languag...
pjmlp 9y ago
Back in the 80's there were a few variants of Basic and Pascal in Portuguese.
googamooga 9y ago
At my school days in 1980s we used to write programs using RAPIRA (russian: РАПИРА) programming language on AGAT microcomputer. RAPIRA was an original programming language with Russian keywords. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapira https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapira

perfmode 9y ago

A language with Internationalized keywords would be pretty dope.

AugustJok 9y ago
What would be the point though? I feel like that would only increase misunderstandings . Like searching for documentation or help online on that function.
nuclearcookie 9y ago
That's what they do with formulas in Excel. There it sucks HARD. Try googling for documentation on StackOverflow for example. Anything you want to copy paste doesn't work because Excel is expecting the commands in a different language.
- pjmlp 9y ago
  It only sucks for us, that are used to English as "programming language". Many Office users only speak their native tongue, are quite happy with the translations and don't even know that StackOverflow exists. They rather buy books, https://www.fca.pt/en/catalogue/computer-science/office/page/ https://www.fca.pt/en/catalogue/computer-science/office/page...
- dx034 9y ago
  If you google in your native language you'll get results in that language. I agree that it takes a bit to relearn all formulas (and I find it too confusing to use different versions at the same time) but when I was still using a non-English version I had no problems finding solutions. I think it was exactly the right thing to do. Excel formulas are often used by people with little knowledge of programming who aren't aware that "if" is a common keyword. Using the local variant makes formulas much easier to understand (and to get people closer to actual programming).
  - Nullabillity 9y ago
    And now you need to maintain hundreds of variants of each SO answer.
  - nuclearcookie 9y ago
    I agree it's a good move from Microsoft to make Excel more accessible. It's just not something I was expecting the first time I stumbled upon the problem. I have a programming background so I'm used to searching everything in English, even though that's not my native language. I inserted sqrt() in my non-English Excel and it didn't work. I thought I had a completely broken version of the program. Took a while to figure out it was a language problem!
dagw 9y ago
You just described Excel, and I can assure it is anything but "pretty dope". It is in fact a monstrous pain in the ass.
flohofwoe 9y ago
I don't know, for me as a non-native speaker the words in a programming language are just memorised tokens, they could just as well be symbols or emojis. The bigger deal is libraries and documentation. For instance Microsoft is attempting to localise all their SDK documentation, and at least for German it's a nightmare, either the translations are done by non-technical people, or algorithms, sometimes the information is twisted in a way that reads like correct German, but doesn't contain any useful information, or is even plain wrong.
- rplnt 9y ago
  > they could just as well be symbols or emojis I'm sure they will...
  - Raphmedia 9y ago
    You can already use emoji in JavaScript. There's also http://www.emojicode.org http://www.emojicode.org
skybrian 9y ago
I can't find anything about this on the web, but didn't AppleScript originally do this?

wyclif 9y ago

In the Philippines here. I'm a native English speaker and my Tagalog is pretty bad, but it looks like it's Ruby with Filipino syntax.

dota168 9y ago
It is just Ruby. Everything is just alias-ed: e.g. https://github.com/jjuliano/bato/blob/master/lib/bato/core_ext/array.rb https://github.com/jjuliano/bato/blob/master/lib/bato/core_e...
- isxek 9y ago
  Indeed. The submission's title should then be changed perhaps to "Bato - the Ruby programming language in Filipino/Tagalog," or perhaps "Bato - Ruby made Filipino/Tagalog."

domenukk 9y ago

Esperanto would be nice

tjalfi 9y ago
There was a programming language with Esperanto syntax. I have to leave for work but I'll respond later with the name if no one else posts it.
- tjalfi 9y ago
  I searched yesterday but wasn't able to find the reference.

panyang 9y ago

Tagalog speaker here. Yes, it is. edit: Bato -> stone. Ang 'Bato Programming Language' ay isang scripting language sa wikang Filipino. -> The Bato programming language is a scripting language in the Filipino tongue (T/N: or more specifially, Tagalog). --- More interestingly in the following section: Bakit Bato? -> Why call it Bato? Ang 'bato' ay hango sa Ruby Programming Language na may Filipino sintaks. Ang kadahilanang ginamit ang pangalang 'bato' ay dahil ang Ruby ay isang uri ng bato. -> Bato is made with Ruby using Filipino syntax. The reason to use the word "Bato" as a name is because Ruby is a kind of stone.

bluedino 9y ago

In the first BASIC programming book I ever read, there was a program to change all the keywords from English to Tagalog, to help a Filipino student who didn't know English.