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Those people don't carry that data with them, if they're competent or have competent IT staff. They have already configured VPNs with 2FA, burner laptops and mo

Those people don't carry that data with them, if they're competent or have competent IT staff. They have already configured VPNs with 2FA, burner laptops and mobile devices, or simply mail the devices via registered post to the hotel and have them picked up there. Device moving through the mail system don't get seen by the border grunts.

actionowl 9y ago
> Those people don't carry that data with them You've made a great point here. What criminal is also going to carry their incriminating data with them? This isn't an effective policy. What problem does it actually solve?
- ben_w 9y ago
  Most people, I think, don’t follow strict digital security/hygiene policies, nor understand them. That includes me, even though I try to be good. (I will not give specific details because two of my three memorable errors are currently covered by NDAs, and the third is personal).
  - jstanley 9y ago
    Right, but they don't need to investigate most people. They need to investigate people who are motivated enough to... well, I'm not sure what. Cross borders while possessing illegal data? But anyway, the people who are motivated enough to do it can easily circumvent it. The only people harmed are innocents.
    - ben_w 9y ago
      “Need” for what end? If there is political will to be “tough on crime”, or to reduce immigration and get away with it by saying you’re really only being tough on crime, you can probably find something on anyone simply because laws are too broad. Likewise if you care about performing economic espionage, you don’t need to worry that you’re mostly getting low-hanging fruit. These are checks you can perform on everyone, after all.
- tinus_hn 9y ago
  Many effective police strategies are based on criminals doing stupid things. If criminals were smart most of them would just make a honest living.

actionowl 9y ago

> Those people don't carry that data with them You've made a great point here. What criminal is also going to carry their incriminating data with them? This isn't an effective policy. What problem does it actually solve?

ben_w 9y ago
Most people, I think, don’t follow strict digital security/hygiene policies, nor understand them. That includes me, even though I try to be good. (I will not give specific details because two of my three memorable errors are currently covered by NDAs, and the third is personal).
- jstanley 9y ago
  Right, but they don't need to investigate most people. They need to investigate people who are motivated enough to... well, I'm not sure what. Cross borders while possessing illegal data? But anyway, the people who are motivated enough to do it can easily circumvent it. The only people harmed are innocents.
  - ben_w 9y ago
    “Need” for what end? If there is political will to be “tough on crime”, or to reduce immigration and get away with it by saying you’re really only being tough on crime, you can probably find something on anyone simply because laws are too broad. Likewise if you care about performing economic espionage, you don’t need to worry that you’re mostly getting low-hanging fruit. These are checks you can perform on everyone, after all.
tinus_hn 9y ago
Many effective police strategies are based on criminals doing stupid things. If criminals were smart most of them would just make a honest living.