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The 2 party system is a product of a lot of things, but when it comes time to vote for president, almost all large American cities have literally 0% say in who

The 2 party system is a product of a lot of things, but when it comes time to vote for president, almost all large American cities have literally 0% say in who gets elected. The electoral college system is an absolute joke

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supreme_sublime 9y ago
People who live in upstate NY, and northern California would probably have something to say about that. As would the people who live outside of Seattle, Portland, Chicago, Eugene, and Minneapolis/St-Paul.
- Johnny555 9y ago
  What would they say about that? That there are more democrats in their state so the majority rules?
  - supreme_sublime 9y ago
    The cities I listed definitely have a huge influence over the state as a whole, and if they didn't exist, they would red states. More rural areas tend to vote Republican and cities tend to vote Democrat. There's nothing really new in that statement. You can see it http://brilliantmaps.com/2016-county-election-map/ http://brilliantmaps.com/2016-county-election-map/
    - Johnny555 9y ago
      But I think the point is that the electoral college is specifically designed to lessen the influence of those mostly liberal cities in the federal election. So you can end up with the winner of the election going to the candidate with the fewest votes, which has happened more than once: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_elections_in_which_the_winner_lost_the_popular_vote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_ele...
      - supreme_sublime 9y ago
        No, it isn't designed to lessen the influence of liberal cities. It is designed to lessen the influence of more populated states over less populated states. It is an attempt to level influence a bit. More populated states still obviously have an advantage in absolute terms, but it allows for more states to override a single large state.

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The 2 party system is a product of a lot of things, but when it comes time to vote for president, almost all large American cities have literally 0% say in who

by beebmam 9y ago

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supreme_sublime 9y ago
People who live in upstate NY, and northern California would probably have something to say about that. As would the people who live outside of Seattle, Portland, Chicago, Eugene, and Minneapolis/St-Paul.
- Johnny555 9y ago
  What would they say about that? That there are more democrats in their state so the majority rules?
  - supreme_sublime 9y ago
    The cities I listed definitely have a huge influence over the state as a whole, and if they didn't exist, they would red states. More rural areas tend to vote Republican and cities tend to vote Democrat. There's nothing really new in that statement. You can see it http://brilliantmaps.com/2016-county-election-map/ http://brilliantmaps.com/2016-county-election-map/
    - Johnny555 9y ago
      But I think the point is that the electoral college is specifically designed to lessen the influence of those mostly liberal cities in the federal election. So you can end up with the winner of the election going to the candidate with the fewest votes, which has happened more than once: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_elections_in_which_the_winner_lost_the_popular_vote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_ele...
      - supreme_sublime 9y ago
        No, it isn't designed to lessen the influence of liberal cities. It is designed to lessen the influence of more populated states over less populated states. It is an attempt to level influence a bit. More populated states still obviously have an advantage in absolute terms, but it allows for more states to override a single large state.