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> The post also pointed to an external blog post written by a Googler that stated, “Blacks are not equal to whites.” Here's what Altheide’s document quotes a "

> The post also pointed to an external blog post written by a Googler that stated, “Blacks are not equal to whites.” Here's what Altheide’s document quotes a "Googler" as writing on an external blog: > Blacks are not equal to whites. Therefore the “inequality” between these races is expected and makes perfect sense. (This also explains why progressives are unable to come up with a black martyr who was not killed while committing a crime.) Was this really written by someone who works for Google? > “As far as I can tell Urs is of the ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ school with regards to diversity topics,” he added. “This is best summed up by him saying ‘if the majority of your coworkers are Nazis, it is better if you don’t know about it’ because productivity.” Altheide wrote that he remembered the quote verbatim, and told Gizmodo that he was so struck by the comparison that he jotted it down after the meeting. That's also quite an accusation. Are there any other reports of Urs saying anything in that ballpark of crazy? edit: clarification

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totalZero 9y ago
> This also explains why progressives are unable to come up with a black martyr who was not killed while committing a crime. That's just braindead. Not that it's necessary to point out the falsehood of a quote so obviously motivated by hate and bereft of truth, but... Vernon Dahmer offered to pay the $2 poll tax for those who could not afford it. His home was doused in gasoline and set on fire, and he died a few hours later as a result. I guess sleeping in your own house is a crime. Harry Moore and his wife Harriette were killed by a bomb detonated directly below their bedroom on Christmas. I guess Christmas is illegal.
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- supreme_sublime 9y ago
  To play a little devil's advocate, while he didn't specifically say this, I think he was referring to police shootings. Interestingly enough Walter Scott was killed less than a month after he posted this. Someone I'd argue could be a bit of a martyr. While he had committed a crime, it still wasn't justifiable in any sense. Of course, the offending officer was also convicted to 20 years in prison.
peoplewindow 9y ago
That's not crazy - Urs is just saying "don't talk about politics at work" which is a rule Google could apparently use a lot more of, given the things coming out in the Damore lawsuit. His second statement was almost certainly a response to someone saying "but muh coworkers are nazzzzzzis" and rather than argue with this self-evidently stupid statement, he pointed out that if this were true, ignorance would be bliss. But of course he thinks it's not true.
- calculusftw 9y ago
  Yeah, that second statement Urs made really didn't seem like it should be taken at face value, especially without understanding its original context.
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bjourne 9y ago
> Was this really written by someone who works for Google? Yes: https://wasarchived.wordpress.com/2015/03/21/brief-introduction/ https://wasarchived.wordpress.com/2015/03/21/brief-introduct... The other posts on the blog makes it clear that the person authoring the post worked at Google.
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calculusftw 9y ago
I don't know what's wrong with the unnamed Googler in Altheide's account that would compel him to say such things. No rational person would say those things, so whatever his hateful, abominable racial views clearly must be, I think it's safe to say there's likely other, potentially more serious issues affecting him. This is certainly not to excuse what he said, as his statements condemn themselves. I just think his shocking statements betray some much deeper problems. > Was this really written by someone who works for Google? Google is such a large company. They have nearly 74,000 employees (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google). With so many people, it's impossible to screen everyone perfectly. I once worked in a startup, with only 10-15 employees at one time, and yet they still let a slightly unstable new hire slip through, once. He seemed perfectly normal--pretty cool, actually--at first, but within a few months he was saying some pretty weird stuff.
supreme_sublime 9y ago
> Blacks are not equal to whites. Therefore the “inequality” between these races is expected and makes perfect sense. (This also explains why progressives are unable to come up with a black martyr who was not killed while committing a crime.) I'm about to step into a minefield here, but whatever. So the black martyr thing I don't really care to touch since that's pretty unrelated to the other statement of inequality between races. It seems you are calling that statement crazy. If it makes you so uncomfortable to think about black people (on average) having a lower IQ than white people. What about black people's domination of most sports? Is there systemic discrimination against white people in basketball and football? Or could it be that there are more black people who are more well suited to play these sports than whites?
- bjourne 9y ago
  I think is fairly weak of you to create a throw-away account because you are afraid to stand for your opinions. Be a man or woman, not a coward. That said: > If it makes you so uncomfortable to think about black people (on average) having a lower IQ than white people. People who make this statement always, always, always use the thoroughly debunked "IQ Map" (https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country) as their source. It is based on data fabricated by Lynn and Vanhanen and jotted down in their book IQ and the Wealth of Nations. > What about black people's domination of most sports? Even if we assume that is true (which it isn't -- 972 medals were awarded at the 2016 Summer Olympics and only a fraction of them went to (really) "black people"), why on earth would domination of most sports imply low IQ? Claiming a race is inferior to another based on faulty information is racist.
  - poster123 9y ago
    The average score of American blacks on IQ tests such as the WISC and Stanford-Binet is about one standard deviation below that of whites, and the performance of blacks on standardized tests such as the SAT and ACT is consistent with that IQ difference. You can debate the origins of the IQ difference, but it does exist.
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totalZero 9y ago

> This also explains why progressives are unable to come up with a black martyr who was not killed while committing a crime. That's just braindead. Not that it's necessary to point out the falsehood of a quote so obviously motivated by hate and bereft of truth, but... Vernon Dahmer offered to pay the $2 poll tax for those who could not afford it. His home was doused in gasoline and set on fire, and he died a few hours later as a result. I guess sleeping in your own house is a crime. Harry Moore and his wife Harriette were killed by a bomb detonated directly below their bedroom on Christmas. I guess Christmas is illegal.

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supreme_sublime 9y ago
To play a little devil's advocate, while he didn't specifically say this, I think he was referring to police shootings. Interestingly enough Walter Scott was killed less than a month after he posted this. Someone I'd argue could be a bit of a martyr. While he had committed a crime, it still wasn't justifiable in any sense. Of course, the offending officer was also convicted to 20 years in prison.

peoplewindow 9y ago

That's not crazy - Urs is just saying "don't talk about politics at work" which is a rule Google could apparently use a lot more of, given the things coming out in the Damore lawsuit. His second statement was almost certainly a response to someone saying "but muh coworkers are nazzzzzzis" and rather than argue with this self-evidently stupid statement, he pointed out that if this were true, ignorance would be bliss. But of course he thinks it's not true.

calculusftw 9y ago
Yeah, that second statement Urs made really didn't seem like it should be taken at face value, especially without understanding its original context.

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bjourne 9y ago

> Was this really written by someone who works for Google? Yes: https://wasarchived.wordpress.com/2015/03/21/brief-introduction/ https://wasarchived.wordpress.com/2015/03/21/brief-introduct... The other posts on the blog makes it clear that the person authoring the post worked at Google.

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calculusftw 9y ago

I don't know what's wrong with the unnamed Googler in Altheide's account that would compel him to say such things. No rational person would say those things, so whatever his hateful, abominable racial views clearly must be, I think it's safe to say there's likely other, potentially more serious issues affecting him. This is certainly not to excuse what he said, as his statements condemn themselves. I just think his shocking statements betray some much deeper problems. > Was this really written by someone who works for Google? Google is such a large company. They have nearly 74,000 employees (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google). With so many people, it's impossible to screen everyone perfectly. I once worked in a startup, with only 10-15 employees at one time, and yet they still let a slightly unstable new hire slip through, once. He seemed perfectly normal--pretty cool, actually--at first, but within a few months he was saying some pretty weird stuff.

supreme_sublime 9y ago

> Blacks are not equal to whites. Therefore the “inequality” between these races is expected and makes perfect sense. (This also explains why progressives are unable to come up with a black martyr who was not killed while committing a crime.) I'm about to step into a minefield here, but whatever. So the black martyr thing I don't really care to touch since that's pretty unrelated to the other statement of inequality between races. It seems you are calling that statement crazy. If it makes you so uncomfortable to think about black people (on average) having a lower IQ than white people. What about black people's domination of most sports? Is there systemic discrimination against white people in basketball and football? Or could it be that there are more black people who are more well suited to play these sports than whites?

bjourne 9y ago
I think is fairly weak of you to create a throw-away account because you are afraid to stand for your opinions. Be a man or woman, not a coward. That said: > If it makes you so uncomfortable to think about black people (on average) having a lower IQ than white people. People who make this statement always, always, always use the thoroughly debunked "IQ Map" (https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country) as their source. It is based on data fabricated by Lynn and Vanhanen and jotted down in their book IQ and the Wealth of Nations. > What about black people's domination of most sports? Even if we assume that is true (which it isn't -- 972 medals were awarded at the 2016 Summer Olympics and only a fraction of them went to (really) "black people"), why on earth would domination of most sports imply low IQ? Claiming a race is inferior to another based on faulty information is racist.
- poster123 9y ago
  The average score of American blacks on IQ tests such as the WISC and Stanford-Binet is about one standard deviation below that of whites, and the performance of blacks on standardized tests such as the SAT and ACT is consistent with that IQ difference. You can debate the origins of the IQ difference, but it does exist.
- supreme_sublime 9y ago