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I think it's a bit ironic that the text, in a sense, blames Google for these problems by calling them the "Google Project Zero Exploits" as if Google was some s

by rusbus 9y ago

I think it's a bit ironic that the text, in a sense, blames Google for these problems by calling them the "Google Project Zero Exploits" as if Google was some sort of cyber crime syndicate using their evil powers to exploit intel.

9935c101ab17a66 9y ago
Wow, that's a good point. "...the exploits uncovered by Google Project Zero" would be much, much more appropriate.
- Animats 9y ago
  The "Intel CPU fundamental design defects uncovered by Google" is more like it.
  - HugoDaniel 9y ago
    "Intel CPU deliberate design defects now uncovered by Google"
- deleted 9y ago
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cookiecaper 9y ago
Yeah I thought that was interesting too. I think they are most likely name dropping Google just because they want to reinforce whatever type of association with Google that they can get. Lots of people won't register this as a bad thing per se, and will just think "Wow it's super cool that Intel is working with The Googles on something". As developers, we should know this phenomenon well by now, as it's dictated an ever-increasing portion of our toolchain. "Oh, you say Google uses this thing?! I use it too then! Google and me are best buds!". (This applies equally to Facebook, and to a lesser extent, Amazon. Compare one of my son's favorite YouTube videos at [0]). Alternatively, they may want customers to think "Oh boy you have to be a super genius guy like the Googles to beat up Intel so this isn't a big deal", or "How could Google do this to a nice company like Intel". So many possibilities, but really all of them turn out well for Intel. [0] https://youtu.be/6x0yWfmh-zk?t=19 https://youtu.be/6x0yWfmh-zk?t=19
cm2187 9y ago
I rather read it as giving them credit.
kmfrk 9y ago
Intel's spin throughout this has been so scummy that it's hard if not impossible for me to not go with Ryzen from now on. Especially as my Intel CPU keeps rebooting with no fix in sight.
MikusR 9y ago
So does AMD https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution

by rusbus 9y ago

9935c101ab17a66 9y ago

Wow, that's a good point. "...the exploits uncovered by Google Project Zero" would be much, much more appropriate.

Animats 9y ago
The "Intel CPU fundamental design defects uncovered by Google" is more like it.
- HugoDaniel 9y ago
  "Intel CPU deliberate design defects now uncovered by Google"
deleted 9y ago
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cookiecaper 9y ago

Yeah I thought that was interesting too. I think they are most likely name dropping Google just because they want to reinforce whatever type of association with Google that they can get. Lots of people won't register this as a bad thing per se, and will just think "Wow it's super cool that Intel is working with The Googles on something". As developers, we should know this phenomenon well by now, as it's dictated an ever-increasing portion of our toolchain. "Oh, you say Google uses this thing?! I use it too then! Google and me are best buds!". (This applies equally to Facebook, and to a lesser extent, Amazon. Compare one of my son's favorite YouTube videos at [0]). Alternatively, they may want customers to think "Oh boy you have to be a super genius guy like the Googles to beat up Intel so this isn't a big deal", or "How could Google do this to a nice company like Intel". So many possibilities, but really all of them turn out well for Intel. [0] https://youtu.be/6x0yWfmh-zk?t=19 https://youtu.be/6x0yWfmh-zk?t=19

cm2187 9y ago

I rather read it as giving them credit.

kmfrk 9y ago

Intel's spin throughout this has been so scummy that it's hard if not impossible for me to not go with Ryzen from now on. Especially as my Intel CPU keeps rebooting with no fix in sight.

MikusR 9y ago

So does AMD https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution