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The premise here is that lobsters feel pain, and the article doesn't really jump through many hoops to prove that. A creature moving away from something that mi

The premise here is that lobsters feel pain, and the article doesn't really jump through many hoops to prove that. A creature moving away from something that might kill it (as with the crabs and shock) isn't really evidence for pain. If we don't know for sure whether crustaceons feel pain, how can we know if different methods of killing them are reducing the pain? The article suggests "stunning the crustacean by chilling it..in an ice slurry". How do we know that this is not unbearable pain and agony for them? If lobsters do feel pain, throwing them into a pot of boiling water probably activates the pain. But offering alternatives that cause "less" pain when we don't even know if/how much pain is caused by any method could be making the situation even worse.

gm-conspiracy 9y ago
Do lobsters have a distributed nervous system?
- ryanianian 9y ago
  Yup. From the article: > ... This is because crustaceans have decentralised nervous systems, meaning that unlike fish, they can't be rendered unconscious with a single blow to the head.
justsee 9y ago
David Foster Wallace's classic piece 'Consider The Lobster' [1] in Gourmet magazine is a fine piece of writing exploring many of these questions in the context of visiting the Maine Lobster festival: Originally published in the August 2004 issue of Gourmet magazine, this review of the 2003 Maine Lobster Festival generated some controversy among the readers of the culinary magazine. The essay is concerned with the ethics of boiling a creature alive in order to enhance the consumer's pleasure, including a discussion of lobster sensory neurons. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20150623174527/http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s/2004/08/consider_the_lobster.html https://web.archive.org/web/20150623174527/http://www.gourme... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consider_the_Lobster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consider_the_Lobster

gm-conspiracy 9y ago

Do lobsters have a distributed nervous system?

ryanianian 9y ago
Yup. From the article: > ... This is because crustaceans have decentralised nervous systems, meaning that unlike fish, they can't be rendered unconscious with a single blow to the head.

justsee 9y ago

David Foster Wallace's classic piece 'Consider The Lobster' [1] in Gourmet magazine is a fine piece of writing exploring many of these questions in the context of visiting the Maine Lobster festival: Originally published in the August 2004 issue of Gourmet magazine, this review of the 2003 Maine Lobster Festival generated some controversy among the readers of the culinary magazine. The essay is concerned with the ethics of boiling a creature alive in order to enhance the consumer's pleasure, including a discussion of lobster sensory neurons. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20150623174527/http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s/2004/08/consider_the_lobster.html https://web.archive.org/web/20150623174527/http://www.gourme... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consider_the_Lobster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consider_the_Lobster