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Every thread about something cool has a bunch of posts filled with unfounded skepticism. Do you have a good reason to claim it's vaporware, or is it just cool

Every thread about something cool has a bunch of posts filled with unfounded skepticism. Do you have a good reason to claim it's vaporware, or is it just cool to be controversial on HN? What does your pointless pessimism and negativity add to the conversation? HN is a community of hackers who like tech, creating stuff, and building the future. Let's get excited about the new things and support our colleagues, instead of just instinctively dismissing anything new.

colordrops 9y ago
I don't think that's a fair accusation. I've been reading hacker news for several years and this is maybe the second time I've seen a new product and my first thought was "vaporware". There is something about the renderings and the half-baked content that gives off a strong sense of not being close to production. We could be wrong, but it does at least indicate that they need to do something about their public facing site if so.
- deleted 9y ago
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- SubiculumCode 9y ago
  Agreed.
- wildflowero 9y ago
  Seconded.
- BoorishBears 9y ago
  The name does it for me. Clearly a cheap grab for some attention that would be aimed at Tesla Motors.
- egfx 9y ago
  I thought it was vaporware too because of the straight out of Poser look. As beautiful as the rendering is. I dug through the Twitter feeds and this looks pretty real to me https://twitter.com/a_lyakhov/status/933276295668084736 https://twitter.com/a_lyakhov/status/933276295668084736 https://twitter.com/real_teslasuit/status/951561726436225031 https://twitter.com/real_teslasuit/status/951561726436225031
debt 9y ago
It’s a haptic suit for VR. I couldn’t make a more buzzword-y, vaporware-sounding sentence unless I added the words “crypto” and “AI“ to it somehow.
GuB-42 9y ago
What it adds to the conversation? That if you want to back such projects, you'd better be prepared to lose your money. There is no mention of crowdsourcing and preorders yet but if it happens, you have been warned. I don't mean it is a scam, but it is definitely high risk. In fact I can only imagine to see it succeed if it is backed by a 800lb gorilla with money to burn. The obvious one would be the military.
flukus 9y ago
The skepticism is well founded. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, put or shut up if you prefer. This is a marketing page, there's been more than enough recent scams built on nothing but high quality marketing pages that you'd be incredibly gullible to believe them. Any news from CES 2018? According to the blog it was meant to be unveiled there but I haven't seen anyone covering it.
- Qworg 9y ago
  It is there, but amongst the giant pile up of startups, it is hard to stand out. I would have paid more attention had I known it was of interest. :/ If you're at CES, it is in the bottom floor of the Sands just behind the Israel section.

colordrops 9y ago

I don't think that's a fair accusation. I've been reading hacker news for several years and this is maybe the second time I've seen a new product and my first thought was "vaporware". There is something about the renderings and the half-baked content that gives off a strong sense of not being close to production. We could be wrong, but it does at least indicate that they need to do something about their public facing site if so.

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SubiculumCode 9y ago
Agreed.
wildflowero 9y ago
Seconded.
BoorishBears 9y ago
The name does it for me. Clearly a cheap grab for some attention that would be aimed at Tesla Motors.
egfx 9y ago
I thought it was vaporware too because of the straight out of Poser look. As beautiful as the rendering is. I dug through the Twitter feeds and this looks pretty real to me https://twitter.com/a_lyakhov/status/933276295668084736 https://twitter.com/a_lyakhov/status/933276295668084736 https://twitter.com/real_teslasuit/status/951561726436225031 https://twitter.com/real_teslasuit/status/951561726436225031

debt 9y ago

It’s a haptic suit for VR. I couldn’t make a more buzzword-y, vaporware-sounding sentence unless I added the words “crypto” and “AI“ to it somehow.

GuB-42 9y ago

What it adds to the conversation? That if you want to back such projects, you'd better be prepared to lose your money. There is no mention of crowdsourcing and preorders yet but if it happens, you have been warned. I don't mean it is a scam, but it is definitely high risk. In fact I can only imagine to see it succeed if it is backed by a 800lb gorilla with money to burn. The obvious one would be the military.

flukus 9y ago

The skepticism is well founded. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, put or shut up if you prefer. This is a marketing page, there's been more than enough recent scams built on nothing but high quality marketing pages that you'd be incredibly gullible to believe them. Any news from CES 2018? According to the blog it was meant to be unveiled there but I haven't seen anyone covering it.

Qworg 9y ago
It is there, but amongst the giant pile up of startups, it is hard to stand out. I would have paid more attention had I known it was of interest. :/ If you're at CES, it is in the bottom floor of the Sands just behind the Israel section.