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Isn't this one of those asymmetry things where the hiring company has no incentive to make the process pleasant? They hold all the power/keys etc. Before peopl

Isn't this one of those asymmetry things where the hiring company has no incentive to make the process pleasant? They hold all the power/keys etc. Before people jump in with "what about negative Glassdoor reviews" or "negative reputation", I'm saying that all things taken into account, the equation is still in favor of the company. I don't know.

Chyzwar 9y ago
It is complicated. My team is trying to hire but it is almost impossible to get a decent candidate. It is a massive time sink and still depends more on luck than anything else.
- ryandrake 9y ago
  The hiring market is like a disfunctional dating market: A whole bunch of mediocre singles complaining they can't find supermodels of the opposite (or their preferred) sex.
  - ionforce 9y ago
    So there should be optimal pairing... I guess the problem is if both sides are exercising minimums. "I don't want the best of the shitty programmers remaining, I want someone with at least this much experience." I don't want some random company, I want a supermodel!
  - Chyzwar 9y ago
    It is more like: all hot girls/boys are already taken only leftovers that cannot complete fizzbuzz are left. Unless your company is hot or you can poach people from your network you will have big problem hiring.
expertentipp 9y ago
I think, collecting anegdotal examples, that we might have a particular crisis right now which reached the widely understood IT as well. Companies simply don’t want to hire, if they do they want compliance and dirt cheap. Many recruiting people I had little pleasant dealing with treat recruitment like buying an item - demand experience with exact technology match and an obedient person as well (“1-2 hours” code assignment). The situation is in a deadlock.
apple4ever 9y ago
It really isn't, even though they think it is. They are losing out on so many good candidates which does affect the bottom line.

Chyzwar 9y ago

It is complicated. My team is trying to hire but it is almost impossible to get a decent candidate. It is a massive time sink and still depends more on luck than anything else.

ryandrake 9y ago
The hiring market is like a disfunctional dating market: A whole bunch of mediocre singles complaining they can't find supermodels of the opposite (or their preferred) sex.
- ionforce 9y ago
  So there should be optimal pairing... I guess the problem is if both sides are exercising minimums. "I don't want the best of the shitty programmers remaining, I want someone with at least this much experience." I don't want some random company, I want a supermodel!
- Chyzwar 9y ago
  It is more like: all hot girls/boys are already taken only leftovers that cannot complete fizzbuzz are left. Unless your company is hot or you can poach people from your network you will have big problem hiring.

expertentipp 9y ago

I think, collecting anegdotal examples, that we might have a particular crisis right now which reached the widely understood IT as well. Companies simply don’t want to hire, if they do they want compliance and dirt cheap. Many recruiting people I had little pleasant dealing with treat recruitment like buying an item - demand experience with exact technology match and an obedient person as well (“1-2 hours” code assignment). The situation is in a deadlock.

apple4ever 9y ago

It really isn't, even though they think it is. They are losing out on so many good candidates which does affect the bottom line.