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Is the clerk.house.gov link the right one? It has "BILL TITLE: Rapid DNA Act of 2017" on its header, doesn't sound like a surveillance law

dragonwriter 9y ago
> Is the clerk.house.gov link the right one? It has "BILL TITLE: Rapid DNA Act of 2017" on its header, doesn't sound like a surveillance law? First, it sounds like a genetic information surveillance law to me, but lots of laws have things other than their main focus (including reauths of other laws) tucked in. Second, lots of laws have misleading titles; do “USA PATRIOT Act” and “USA FREEDOM Act” sound (other than knowing the actual content put under those titles included) like surveillance laws?
- hrasyid 9y ago
  So, how do we know that it's the right one? Also, it's quite conceivable that a government considers surveilance "patriotic" or necessary to defend "freedom", but I don't feel the same about "Rapid DNA".
bgentry 9y ago
I think so, it appears to be the primary bill that was discussed this morning: http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx?day=20180111&today=20180111 http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx?day=20180111&... The Amash amendment was also to this bill. Here is a pamphlet comparing S. 139 with the Amash/USA Rights Act Amendment: https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/ChartComparingS139andUSARIGHTS11018.pdf https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/ChartCompa... That same document refers to S. 139 as the FISA Reauthorization Amendments Act. More clarification from journalists who closely follow this topic: https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/951541344274649089 https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/951541344274649089
- loteck 9y ago
  As we are discussing elsewhere, this is the vote on the Amash amendment, which is what people here are talking about. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll014.xml http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll014.xml

dragonwriter 9y ago

> Is the clerk.house.gov link the right one? It has "BILL TITLE: Rapid DNA Act of 2017" on its header, doesn't sound like a surveillance law? First, it sounds like a genetic information surveillance law to me, but lots of laws have things other than their main focus (including reauths of other laws) tucked in. Second, lots of laws have misleading titles; do “USA PATRIOT Act” and “USA FREEDOM Act” sound (other than knowing the actual content put under those titles included) like surveillance laws?

hrasyid 9y ago
So, how do we know that it's the right one? Also, it's quite conceivable that a government considers surveilance "patriotic" or necessary to defend "freedom", but I don't feel the same about "Rapid DNA".

bgentry 9y ago

I think so, it appears to be the primary bill that was discussed this morning: http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx?day=20180111&today=20180111 http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx?day=20180111&... The Amash amendment was also to this bill. Here is a pamphlet comparing S. 139 with the Amash/USA Rights Act Amendment: https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/ChartComparingS139andUSARIGHTS11018.pdf https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/ChartCompa... That same document refers to S. 139 as the FISA Reauthorization Amendments Act. More clarification from journalists who closely follow this topic: https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/951541344274649089 https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/951541344274649089

loteck 9y ago
As we are discussing elsewhere, this is the vote on the Amash amendment, which is what people here are talking about. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll014.xml http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll014.xml