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Can we please stop referring to tittle 2 regulations as Net Neutrality? Net neutrality has been a long standing principle in the governance of the internet that

Can we please stop referring to tittle 2 regulations as Net Neutrality? Net neutrality has been a long standing principle in the governance of the internet that everyone agrees with. This debate isn't weather we should have net neutrality or not it's over what regulatory instruments should or should not be used to ensure it. All of the examples pro tittle 2 advocates being up about Comcast, Verizon and other Isps where resolved in favor of the consumer Under Tittle 1 regulitions f the 1996 Tellecomunications Act. https://youtu.be/8dY-g823g04 https://youtu.be/8dY-g823g04

dragonwriter 9y ago
> Can we please stop referring to tittle 2 regulations as Net Neutrality No, because the repeal of the Title II-based Open Internet regulations ends meaningful enforcement of the net neutrality principles. > Net neutrality has been a long standing principle in the governance of the internet Well, in the FCC regulation of ISPs, yes. > that everyone agrees with. This is manifestly false; if everyone agreed with it, there would be no acts in violation of net neutrality principles except by accident. > This debate isn't weather we should have net neutrality or not Yes, it is. > it's over what regulatory instruments should or should not be used to ensure it. Which is equivalent with whether we should have it, because it has repeatedly been shown that ISPs will not provide it unless compelled to do so. > All of the examples pro tittle 2 advocates being up about Comcast, Verizon and other Isps where resolved in favor of the consumer Under Tittle 1 regulitions The courts struck down the FCC’s ability to use Title I regulations to enforce net neutrality in 2014, which is what prompted the Title II regulations adopted in 2015.
Karunamon 9y ago
Thank you. It's kind of maddening how many people get "title 2" and "net neutrality" confused. Title 2 is a massive blob of legislation that, as one of its many provisions, ensured a kind of net neutrality, while still leaving the door open for other types of abuse. Net neutrality is a concept that transcends law - kind of like how freedom of speech transcends the first amendment. It is quite possible to, in good faith, be against Title 2 with its flaws while still supporting the concept of net neutrality.
apendleton 9y ago
Obama's FCC only employed title II to impose net neutrality because the previous statutory regime under which they imposed it was successfully crushed by Verizon in court. To say that opponents of title II would support some other regime is, frankly, bullshit; they're the reason we ended up here in the first place, and there's solid precedent that Verizon, Comcast, etc., would oppose any future regime that might be proposed. I think it's fair to call all of those possible regulatory schemes, collectively, "net neutrality."

dragonwriter 9y ago

> Can we please stop referring to tittle 2 regulations as Net Neutrality No, because the repeal of the Title II-based Open Internet regulations ends meaningful enforcement of the net neutrality principles. > Net neutrality has been a long standing principle in the governance of the internet Well, in the FCC regulation of ISPs, yes. > that everyone agrees with. This is manifestly false; if everyone agreed with it, there would be no acts in violation of net neutrality principles except by accident. > This debate isn't weather we should have net neutrality or not Yes, it is. > it's over what regulatory instruments should or should not be used to ensure it. Which is equivalent with whether we should have it, because it has repeatedly been shown that ISPs will not provide it unless compelled to do so. > All of the examples pro tittle 2 advocates being up about Comcast, Verizon and other Isps where resolved in favor of the consumer Under Tittle 1 regulitions The courts struck down the FCC’s ability to use Title I regulations to enforce net neutrality in 2014, which is what prompted the Title II regulations adopted in 2015.

Karunamon 9y ago

Thank you. It's kind of maddening how many people get "title 2" and "net neutrality" confused. Title 2 is a massive blob of legislation that, as one of its many provisions, ensured a kind of net neutrality, while still leaving the door open for other types of abuse. Net neutrality is a concept that transcends law - kind of like how freedom of speech transcends the first amendment. It is quite possible to, in good faith, be against Title 2 with its flaws while still supporting the concept of net neutrality.

apendleton 9y ago

Obama's FCC only employed title II to impose net neutrality because the previous statutory regime under which they imposed it was successfully crushed by Verizon in court. To say that opponents of title II would support some other regime is, frankly, bullshit; they're the reason we ended up here in the first place, and there's solid precedent that Verizon, Comcast, etc., would oppose any future regime that might be proposed. I think it's fair to call all of those possible regulatory schemes, collectively, "net neutrality."