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> on iPhone X when you accidentally click top left corner of the phone where the clock is - for some inexplicable reason the whole conversation scrolls all the

> on iPhone X when you accidentally click top left corner of the phone where the clock is - for some inexplicable reason the whole conversation scrolls all the way to the top, which is incredibly annoying! That's by design and standard iOS behaviour (it has been there for years). Tapping anywhere on the system toolbar (i.e. where the clock, wifi, signal strength indicators are) brings the main scrollable view to its "topmost" position.

sneak 9y ago
Yes, this is an iPhone X bezel design flaw, not a Skype design flaw. :)
kettlecorn 9y ago
I just tried it on this webpage, and you’re correct! I really dislike behavior like this that is useful to a few people but is far more likely to be encountered accidentally and feel buggy.
- Matt3o12_ 9y ago
  I like it and use it all the time and many people I know also use it a lot. It is not as good for text that is most relevant on the bottom (e.g. text messages) but really useful for webpages, etc.. Some apps implement some logic to scroll back up when you tap it again (Apollo comes to mind). The only disadvantage is that many users do not know about this feature (because there is no indication that the status bar tab is supposed to do something like that) which is the reason many use think an app is buggy after they have tabbed on it accidentally.
  - eganist 9y ago
    > The only disadvantage is that many users do not know about this feature (because there is no indication that the status bar tab is supposed to do something like that) which is the reason many use think an app is buggy after they have tabbed on it accidentally. Precisely why this behavior should be considered unfriendly. It's not intuitive and is prone to accidents by the vast majority of the target market. Even just making it a double-tap would make it drastically better, and double-taps are closer to convention as well. Double-click the left or right arrows in an overloaded tab bar in Firefox on desktop, for instance, for it to scroll a full row over.
  - robotsonic 9y ago
    Agree with this. It's a great feature other than in messaging apps. In those, I wish there was an equally useful feature to get back to the bottom. I've noticed that most people find the feature accidentally, but then once they realize it's an option, use it extensively.
    - lvillani 9y ago
      > I wish there was an equally useful feature to get back to the bottom. WhatsApp shows a small button in the lower-right corner once you scroll up a few messages for this purpose. iMessage scrolls back to the bottom as soon as you focus the input field. I don't know about the others. But yeah, it highly depends on how the developers decide to implement it, which is suboptimal :(
- josefresco 9y ago
  You're kidding right? It's been a feature of iOS for what feels like forever, and it's literally the one thing I miss most when switching to Android. I have witnessed first hand, very un-tech savvy iOS users using the feature, as well as people confused (my daughters) why the same action on Android doesn't product the same result. I thought this was one of Apple's "protected" features that everyone used/loved - guess not!
  - usaphp 9y ago
    I agree it’s useful on web pages but there has got to be an option to disable that in app conversations.
  - usaphp 9y ago
    Just noticed something - in safari it requires you to tap it twice, thus precenting accidential clicks, while in skype it sends you straight to the top with a first click.
- lvillani 9y ago
  If you think this is weird, what about the "shake to undo" thing? :-) Seriously, try to e.g. delete an email from the system's mail app, then vigorously shake your phone in anger. A popup asking you to "Undo delete" should appear on the screen (Many applications hook into this seemingly standard undo mechanism on iOS). Some things in iOS are objectively weird and unintuitive but I miss them so much whenever I use an Android phone.
  - notamy 9y ago
    > the "shake to undo" thing? :-) "You appear to be shaking your phone in frustration. Would you like to un-delete that?" :)
- skywhopper 9y ago
  I like this behavior for web pages. Not sure it's appropriate for chat history... so I think you are right that Skype probably shouldn't work that way.
spiderfarmer 9y ago
It has been for years. I love it and miss this on Android (and MacOS as well).
- cyberpunk0 9y ago
  No thanks
- M4v3R 9y ago
  On MacOS it's present in Mail app at least - if you click on the grey bar at the top of the email list it will scroll to the top :).
walterbell 9y ago
Have long wanted a home/top gesture, thanks!
eganist 9y ago
Who at Apple thought this was intuitive? What's two flicks got that this doesn't? Or maybe if a shortcut was desired for extremely long views, why not make it a double tap?
- josefresco 9y ago
  Two flicks ?!? Try 4-5 (or more) flicks and you also have to wait for the scrolling to happen (at the speed of your flick) .... contrast that with one "press" on iOS - it's not even close - I use the feature daily.
  - eganist 9y ago
    Maybe scroll speeds need some work on iOS. On Android, two full swipes of a long source file or pdf have gotten me to the top. Haha
    - martimarkov 9y ago
      Great, on iOS is a single interaction and again it has been there for ages. My dad switched from Android and actually likes this specific feature.
    - salvar 9y ago
      iOS devices aren't only used to browse source files or PDFs. You could be at the very bottom of an extremely long Reddit thread, for example, or some other really long page where it would take multiple swipes to get back to the top.
rconti 9y ago
WHOA. this is amazing. Must try.
usaphp 9y ago
The difference is that in browser you have to tap it twice , first tap expands browser bar and second tap scrolls to the top. However In conversations it just scrolls to the very top with a first click, which is incredibly annoying.

sneak 9y ago

Yes, this is an iPhone X bezel design flaw, not a Skype design flaw. :)

kettlecorn 9y ago

I just tried it on this webpage, and you’re correct! I really dislike behavior like this that is useful to a few people but is far more likely to be encountered accidentally and feel buggy.

Matt3o12_ 9y ago
I like it and use it all the time and many people I know also use it a lot. It is not as good for text that is most relevant on the bottom (e.g. text messages) but really useful for webpages, etc.. Some apps implement some logic to scroll back up when you tap it again (Apollo comes to mind). The only disadvantage is that many users do not know about this feature (because there is no indication that the status bar tab is supposed to do something like that) which is the reason many use think an app is buggy after they have tabbed on it accidentally.
- eganist 9y ago
  > The only disadvantage is that many users do not know about this feature (because there is no indication that the status bar tab is supposed to do something like that) which is the reason many use think an app is buggy after they have tabbed on it accidentally. Precisely why this behavior should be considered unfriendly. It's not intuitive and is prone to accidents by the vast majority of the target market. Even just making it a double-tap would make it drastically better, and double-taps are closer to convention as well. Double-click the left or right arrows in an overloaded tab bar in Firefox on desktop, for instance, for it to scroll a full row over.
- robotsonic 9y ago
  Agree with this. It's a great feature other than in messaging apps. In those, I wish there was an equally useful feature to get back to the bottom. I've noticed that most people find the feature accidentally, but then once they realize it's an option, use it extensively.
  - lvillani 9y ago
    > I wish there was an equally useful feature to get back to the bottom. WhatsApp shows a small button in the lower-right corner once you scroll up a few messages for this purpose. iMessage scrolls back to the bottom as soon as you focus the input field. I don't know about the others. But yeah, it highly depends on how the developers decide to implement it, which is suboptimal :(
josefresco 9y ago
You're kidding right? It's been a feature of iOS for what feels like forever, and it's literally the one thing I miss most when switching to Android. I have witnessed first hand, very un-tech savvy iOS users using the feature, as well as people confused (my daughters) why the same action on Android doesn't product the same result. I thought this was one of Apple's "protected" features that everyone used/loved - guess not!
- usaphp 9y ago
  I agree it’s useful on web pages but there has got to be an option to disable that in app conversations.
- usaphp 9y ago
  Just noticed something - in safari it requires you to tap it twice, thus precenting accidential clicks, while in skype it sends you straight to the top with a first click.
lvillani 9y ago
If you think this is weird, what about the "shake to undo" thing? :-) Seriously, try to e.g. delete an email from the system's mail app, then vigorously shake your phone in anger. A popup asking you to "Undo delete" should appear on the screen (Many applications hook into this seemingly standard undo mechanism on iOS). Some things in iOS are objectively weird and unintuitive but I miss them so much whenever I use an Android phone.
- notamy 9y ago
  > the "shake to undo" thing? :-) "You appear to be shaking your phone in frustration. Would you like to un-delete that?" :)
skywhopper 9y ago
I like this behavior for web pages. Not sure it's appropriate for chat history... so I think you are right that Skype probably shouldn't work that way.

spiderfarmer 9y ago

It has been for years. I love it and miss this on Android (and MacOS as well).

cyberpunk0 9y ago
No thanks
M4v3R 9y ago
On MacOS it's present in Mail app at least - if you click on the grey bar at the top of the email list it will scroll to the top :).

walterbell 9y ago

Have long wanted a home/top gesture, thanks!

eganist 9y ago

Who at Apple thought this was intuitive? What's two flicks got that this doesn't? Or maybe if a shortcut was desired for extremely long views, why not make it a double tap?

josefresco 9y ago
Two flicks ?!? Try 4-5 (or more) flicks and you also have to wait for the scrolling to happen (at the speed of your flick) .... contrast that with one "press" on iOS - it's not even close - I use the feature daily.
- eganist 9y ago
  Maybe scroll speeds need some work on iOS. On Android, two full swipes of a long source file or pdf have gotten me to the top. Haha
  - martimarkov 9y ago
    Great, on iOS is a single interaction and again it has been there for ages. My dad switched from Android and actually likes this specific feature.
  - salvar 9y ago
    iOS devices aren't only used to browse source files or PDFs. You could be at the very bottom of an extremely long Reddit thread, for example, or some other really long page where it would take multiple swipes to get back to the top.

rconti 9y ago

WHOA. this is amazing. Must try.

usaphp 9y ago

The difference is that in browser you have to tap it twice , first tap expands browser bar and second tap scrolls to the top. However In conversations it just scrolls to the very top with a first click, which is incredibly annoying.