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Discord does all of this, though it's not E2E encrypted, and does it all with a fantastic UX.

alkonaut 9y ago
For some reason having the (non business) Skype is not hard to sell in a big "old school" enterprise, because it's microsoft. I'd have a much harder time selling Discord because of how they market themselves. They could make "discord for business" that is literally the same app and have great success. Other than that my only complaint is that it's a bit electron-y.
- lev99 9y ago
  If your in a position where you could convince an organization to use Discord for Business you could probably convince them to use Slack or Hipchat, both of which are better than Skype.
  - alkonaut 9y ago
    Slack and Hipchat are pretty expensive, and I’m actually less annoyed by horrible UX and ads in Skype, than by the resource usage of Slack. But again - so long as slack and HipChat are $5k+ per year they need to be a lot better than the free options.
- Kuraj 9y ago
  > They could make "discord for business" that is literally the same app and have great success. Discord is sometimes known as "slack for gamers" so you're effectively describing Slack :)
  - alkonaut 9y ago
    Yes. But slack, like HipChat thinks I want to pay 500MB RAM and $7 per user per month to chat and voice call. Effectively all I want is a lean chat/voice app that’s also ideally free. This is pretty easy - but when you throw in the other Skype features (group voice, screen sharing, mobile apps) as requirements, it’s actually pretty hard to match in the free tier. Skype is $0 regardless of company size and the resource use is pretty reasonable. On that topic: Why aren’t more companies using discord instead of Slack? Looking at feature matrices it seems discord does in the free version a lot of what Slack does in paid (e.g group voice)?
    - tenryuu 9y ago
      One big reason not to is due to corporate policies, mostly could be summed into legal matters, such as privacy, usage rights etc.

For some reason having the (non business) Skype is not hard to sell in a big "old school" enterprise, because it's microsoft. I'd have a much harder time selling Discord because of how they market themselves. They could make "discord for business" that is literally the same app and have great success. Other than that my only complaint is that it's a bit electron-y.

lev99 9y ago
If your in a position where you could convince an organization to use Discord for Business you could probably convince them to use Slack or Hipchat, both of which are better than Skype.
- alkonaut 9y ago
  Slack and Hipchat are pretty expensive, and I’m actually less annoyed by horrible UX and ads in Skype, than by the resource usage of Slack. But again - so long as slack and HipChat are $5k+ per year they need to be a lot better than the free options.
Kuraj 9y ago
> They could make "discord for business" that is literally the same app and have great success. Discord is sometimes known as "slack for gamers" so you're effectively describing Slack :)
- alkonaut 9y ago
  Yes. But slack, like HipChat thinks I want to pay 500MB RAM and $7 per user per month to chat and voice call. Effectively all I want is a lean chat/voice app that’s also ideally free. This is pretty easy - but when you throw in the other Skype features (group voice, screen sharing, mobile apps) as requirements, it’s actually pretty hard to match in the free tier. Skype is $0 regardless of company size and the resource use is pretty reasonable. On that topic: Why aren’t more companies using discord instead of Slack? Looking at feature matrices it seems discord does in the free version a lot of what Slack does in paid (e.g group voice)?
  - tenryuu 9y ago
    One big reason not to is due to corporate policies, mostly could be summed into legal matters, such as privacy, usage rights etc.