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While I kind of hate Atlassian products (bloated, horrible APIs), and Bitbucket has some serious UX problems (Find), it's still better than have your repos be o

by rplnt 9y ago

While I kind of hate Atlassian products (bloated, horrible APIs), and Bitbucket has some serious UX problems (Find), it's still better than have your repos be offline. There's not much that can go wrong on a single instance with a local database. Have a failover in case the HW fails and you are good to go, and it's faster. The pricing is not great, but perhaps that's something GitLab can solve. But being hip and being lean (even if it costs more) is more important I guess.

nik736 9y ago
Did you actually notice that BitBucket was down yesterday for several hours and still has huge issues?
- zbentley 9y ago
  I think GP was referring to the fact that bitbucket.org-the-website is just the Atlassian-hosted installation of BitBucket-the-Atlassian-product, which you can also self-host and self-administrate. It is payware, but reasonably affordable ($10/10 users, usually). I've seen companies squeeze some (probably contract-breaching) huge numbers of users out of the very small plans of Atlassian software, as well, usually via insane multiple-people-using-same-account editing conventions.
  - stephenr 9y ago
    > to the fact that bitbucket.org-the-website is just the Atlassian-hosted installation of BitBucket-the-Atlassian-product, which you can also self-host and self-administrate. Nope. They're completely separate things. The hosted one they bought, and does mercurial too. The self hosted one is what used to be called stash, and is git only afaik.
dx034 9y ago
Isn't Gitlab at least as hip as Github?
- apple4ever 9y ago
  GitLab is actually better than GitHub, and not just because it can be self hosted.
skeddles 9y ago
BitBucket was down most of yesterday
- zbentley 9y ago
  See my reply to nik736's comment in this subthread: bitbucket.org is just Atlassian's copy of BitBucket, which you can buy from them and hose yourself. EDIT: I meant "host", not "hose", but given some of my experience sysadminning Atlassian products, the sentence may still be correct.
  - knownothing 9y ago
    > bitbucket.org is just Atlassian's copy of BitBucket, which you can buy from them and hose yourself. This is incorrect. Bitbucket Cloud and Server are two completely separate codebases. On the other hand, GitHub Enterprise is basically a snapshot of the production GitHub application.
    - zbentley 9y ago
      Interesting, thanks for the info. I had assumed BitBucket cloud was a selected distribution of mostly the same components as BitBucket Server, plus a few proprietary things they don't sell in the hosted version.
      - knownothing 9y ago
        No problem. Atlassian actually acquired Bitbucket in 2010 and then released Stash (later rebranded as Bitbucket Server) in 2012.
save_ferris 9y ago
Not a Bitbucket user, but this surprises me given the seemingly constant downtime issues that plagued Hipchat when I used it on a regular basis, but maybe it was just isolated to that one product.
ehPReth 9y ago
GitHub also has an enterprise version analogous (AIUI) to running Bitbucket or GitLab locally: https://enterprise.github.com/home https://enterprise.github.com/home
- rplnt 9y ago
  Ah, good point, I forgot about this.

by rplnt 9y ago

nik736 9y ago

Did you actually notice that BitBucket was down yesterday for several hours and still has huge issues?

zbentley 9y ago
I think GP was referring to the fact that bitbucket.org-the-website is just the Atlassian-hosted installation of BitBucket-the-Atlassian-product, which you can also self-host and self-administrate. It is payware, but reasonably affordable ($10/10 users, usually). I've seen companies squeeze some (probably contract-breaching) huge numbers of users out of the very small plans of Atlassian software, as well, usually via insane multiple-people-using-same-account editing conventions.
- stephenr 9y ago
  > to the fact that bitbucket.org-the-website is just the Atlassian-hosted installation of BitBucket-the-Atlassian-product, which you can also self-host and self-administrate. Nope. They're completely separate things. The hosted one they bought, and does mercurial too. The self hosted one is what used to be called stash, and is git only afaik.

dx034 9y ago

Isn't Gitlab at least as hip as Github?

apple4ever 9y ago
GitLab is actually better than GitHub, and not just because it can be self hosted.

skeddles 9y ago

BitBucket was down most of yesterday

zbentley 9y ago
See my reply to nik736's comment in this subthread: bitbucket.org is just Atlassian's copy of BitBucket, which you can buy from them and hose yourself. EDIT: I meant "host", not "hose", but given some of my experience sysadminning Atlassian products, the sentence may still be correct.
- knownothing 9y ago
  > bitbucket.org is just Atlassian's copy of BitBucket, which you can buy from them and hose yourself. This is incorrect. Bitbucket Cloud and Server are two completely separate codebases. On the other hand, GitHub Enterprise is basically a snapshot of the production GitHub application.
  - zbentley 9y ago
    Interesting, thanks for the info. I had assumed BitBucket cloud was a selected distribution of mostly the same components as BitBucket Server, plus a few proprietary things they don't sell in the hosted version.
    - knownothing 9y ago
      No problem. Atlassian actually acquired Bitbucket in 2010 and then released Stash (later rebranded as Bitbucket Server) in 2012.

save_ferris 9y ago

Not a Bitbucket user, but this surprises me given the seemingly constant downtime issues that plagued Hipchat when I used it on a regular basis, but maybe it was just isolated to that one product.

ehPReth 9y ago

GitHub also has an enterprise version analogous (AIUI) to running Bitbucket or GitLab locally: https://enterprise.github.com/home https://enterprise.github.com/home

rplnt 9y ago
Ah, good point, I forgot about this.