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I think the problem is that "diversity" has come to mean "bash white males", so being speaking out against that seems natural. EDIT: instead of replying to eac

I think the problem is that "diversity" has come to mean "bash white males", so being speaking out against that seems natural. EDIT: instead of replying to each of you who say this doesn't happen, please look at my link of the evidence being submitted in this case to see that it does happen (or someone is faking a ton of evidence): https://twitter.com/mjaeckel/status/950446329603461121 https://twitter.com/mjaeckel/status/950446329603461121

avs733 9y ago
no it hasn't, that's just a convenient narrative pushed by a group of people who are trying avoid the bad press from using their real slogans that say things like 'diversity is white genocide'
forapurpose 9y ago
If we're going to discuss it, I'd say let's all stick to facts we can cite and eliminate the charged or hyperbolic language (e.g., "bash"). > "diversity" has come to mean "bash white males" I've heard many partisans against diversity say that, but it has not been something I've observed myself. IMHO and IME, it's the reverse: Criticism of white men is limited because it will alienate and provoke too many powerful people (white men having an large bmajority of power). Racism and sexism are very widespread and overwhelming, but many white guys are somehow not very aware of it. Look at what's been happening with women right under everyone's noses for all this time, and the #metoo movement is just bringing it to light; women are just now criticizing these men. There should have been more criticism for many years.
- pandaman 9y ago
  >I've heard many partisans against diversity say that, but it has not been something I've observed myself. Did you look into the lawsuit? There are screenshots of people, who appear to be very pro-diversity, saying exactly this.
  - forapurpose 9y ago
    A screenshot from one discussion at one large company and presented by someone suing the company, even if it shows what you say, isn't evidence of widespread behavior.

avs733 9y ago

no it hasn't, that's just a convenient narrative pushed by a group of people who are trying avoid the bad press from using their real slogans that say things like 'diversity is white genocide'

forapurpose 9y ago

If we're going to discuss it, I'd say let's all stick to facts we can cite and eliminate the charged or hyperbolic language (e.g., "bash"). > "diversity" has come to mean "bash white males" I've heard many partisans against diversity say that, but it has not been something I've observed myself. IMHO and IME, it's the reverse: Criticism of white men is limited because it will alienate and provoke too many powerful people (white men having an large bmajority of power). Racism and sexism are very widespread and overwhelming, but many white guys are somehow not very aware of it. Look at what's been happening with women right under everyone's noses for all this time, and the #metoo movement is just bringing it to light; women are just now criticizing these men. There should have been more criticism for many years.

pandaman 9y ago
>I've heard many partisans against diversity say that, but it has not been something I've observed myself. Did you look into the lawsuit? There are screenshots of people, who appear to be very pro-diversity, saying exactly this.
- forapurpose 9y ago
  A screenshot from one discussion at one large company and presented by someone suing the company, even if it shows what you say, isn't evidence of widespread behavior.