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i'd expect that kind of stupidity from reddit, but here? Has mainstream media truly got such a hold over everyone? that they can destroy the reputation of a se
by cortic 9y ago
i'd expect that kind of stupidity from reddit, but here? Has mainstream media truly got such a hold over everyone? that they can destroy the reputation of a service (and a political refugee) while doing absolutely everything they accuse the service of doing, except blatantly and malevolently?
Starting to wonder whether the west deserves a service like Wikileaks; maybe we should be condemned back into the days where whistle blowers were quietly dealt with and the population could live in dumb ignorance.
- lurr 9y ago> i'd expect that kind of stupidity from reddit, but here and the very next sentence > Has mainstream media truly got such a hold over everyone
- ghostcluster 9y agoEven mainstream media admitted its sins the day after the 2016 election. This is from the political director of CBS News: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-the-unbearable-smugness-of-the-press-presidential-election-2016/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-the-unbearable-smugn... Unfortunately, it's only seemed to have gotten even worse over the past year, even after such a mea culpa.
- aaron-lebo 9y agoYou aren't being very objective about Assange. He played bait and switch throughout the election cycle acting like he had some kind of big reveal that he never revealed and he picked sides with Trump. He's got an agenda. It's not wrong to have an agenda, but he's manipulative.
- cortic 9y agono where near as manipulative as the rag you read that in, and he is in a much more precarious position as those reporters are.
- aaron-lebo 9y agoI don't have an particular allegiance to "that rag". If you don't want to present the full picture, that's your issue, but you obviously have a dog in race. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-secret-correspondence-between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/545738/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-sec... Yes, it's a "rag", the facts are still there.
- cortic 9y agoa hack job. how it that not obvious? and the dog i have in this race is the future of my country.
- freehunter 9y ago>no where near as manipulative as the rag you read that in Oh come on. I'd expect that kind of talk from reddit, but here?
- paulie_a 9y agoHe is the political equivalent of the Kardashians
- ribosometronome 9y ago>that they can destroy the reputation of a service (and a political refugee) while doing absolutely everything they accuse the service of doing, except blatantly and malevolently? Can you show me where the NYTimes told Chelsea Clinton her mom should claim the election was rigged and refuse to concede? Wikileaks destroyed it's own reputation with irresponsible releases with unredacted names, clearly timed releases to act as damage control for specific candidates, and generally just being unprofessional as hell.
- cortic 9y agoThey are the only place a whistle-blower can go, without being hung out to dry; Your main complaint about them is that they sometimes, supposedly act like the rest of our media...
- ribosometronome 9y agoI don't know how you can make that claim with a straight face. Wikileaks has played a ridiculous coy Was-he-or-wasn't-he game with regard to Seth Rich to the detriment of his family and national discourse. Meanwhile, whistle blowers have gone to major media organizations again and again without being hung out to dry. The Washington Post didn't hang out Deep Throat to die - his identity got revealed by a family lawyer 3 decades later. Süddeutsche Zeitung didn't out the Panama Papers leaker. Most of 2017 has been spent with major stories covering the airwaves based on whistle blowers from within the White House. Edward Snowden's name got revealed at his own request. Let's not be disingenuous and act like there aren't responsible organizations and journalists dedicating their lives to aiding whistleblowers and publishing the news in a responsible manner.
- cortic 9y ago"and publishing the news in a responsible manner." \s ?
- malvosenior 9y agoJust because “your side” suffered when exposed doesn’t mean the rest of us don’t see massive value in learning the truth whenever and however we can.