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There's a lot of truth to this, but you'll soon be shouted down by the very people you describe. Successful people--however they got there--only like to attribu

by 5teev 16y ago

There's a lot of truth to this, but you'll soon be shouted down by the very people you describe. Successful people--however they got there--only like to attribute it to their own very hard work.

m_myers 16y ago
And now any disagreement can be immediately disqualified without further argument. Well done.
- winternett 16y ago
  I said nothing about wealth/opportunity inheritors being lazy. Many work hard and aren't bad people. I was commenting about the dream of success and how its skewed to tell people that they can do whatever they want, and that they can create a start up that will succeed on ideas and marketing alone... There is much more at work in this society than whats written on paper, especially if you're reading Rich Dad Poor Dad.
forgottenpaswrd 16y ago
What should they do it different? You know what? If you are american you got lucky to spend 5x more resources than anyone in the first world, energy, petrol, plastics, TVs, computers, cars, whatever. If you think about it, that is not fair!! Travel around and look at how other people lives. And the number will become 10x,20x if you compare yourself to the majority (over the 3000billion people). You are not smarter than them, more educated or culture(the majority of Americans only speak one language, give me a break)... just lucky. So you are rich!!, today, now. Just because you were born in the right place. It seems that YOU want them to attribute their wealth(people richer than you) to luck, witch is a enormous fallacy, is not true, they are not lazy bastards like your prejudices want it to be(so YOUR mind could have an excuse for not working). It is totally ok for someone to be proud of their work.
winternett 16y ago
Agreed, so many hide behind the veil of hard work and its a lie, most got to their successful points in life based on the wealth opportunity provided by finances or friends. Society needs to begin to look at and understand wealth in this manner. Dynasties always manage to preserve wealth in the world because of their inner-associations, rules, plans and initiations and they rarely recruit total outsiders.Its no tin-foil hat conspiracy, its reality. Opportunity in life is just as beneficial as inherited wealth. You can work for years in an industry and never gain upward mobility because of a lack of personal connections that foster your growth and the insider information and support that you get from those sources, such as being fraternity brothers with a CEO, or knowing/mentoring with someone who has deeper political or financial influence since you were a child, or by having a rich mommy and daddy. Its so much about who you know, and how you start. There have been several people with lots of money who failed by trying to buy their way into high society, without first making friends, we have all witnessed many brilliant meltdowns from Paris Hilton and others who didn't get the memo. We need to start looking into wealth and financial stability and creating opportunities for the best ideas to succeed, not just the ideas with the best marketing campaigns. Mom and Pop is where we need to go, in terms of our future business and development outlook support to end the threats to net neutrality and shoddy/arbitrarily wrong/and unethical big businesses dominating our social landscape...
- rick888 16y ago
  "Mom and Pop is where we need to go, in terms of our future business and development outlook support to end the threats to net neutrality and shoddy/arbitrarily wrong/and unethical big businesses dominating our social landscape..." Many mom and pop shops turn into big businesses. Are we going to also have a law that prevents a business from growing to a certain size? I also don't think I want a mom and pop store running something like cable. I don't think they would be able to keep up with service calls/support

by 5teev 16y ago

There's a lot of truth to this, but you'll soon be shouted down by the very people you describe. Successful people--however they got there--only like to attribute it to their own very hard work.

m_myers 16y ago

And now any disagreement can be immediately disqualified without further argument. Well done.

winternett 16y ago
I said nothing about wealth/opportunity inheritors being lazy. Many work hard and aren't bad people. I was commenting about the dream of success and how its skewed to tell people that they can do whatever they want, and that they can create a start up that will succeed on ideas and marketing alone... There is much more at work in this society than whats written on paper, especially if you're reading Rich Dad Poor Dad.

forgottenpaswrd 16y ago

What should they do it different? You know what? If you are american you got lucky to spend 5x more resources than anyone in the first world, energy, petrol, plastics, TVs, computers, cars, whatever. If you think about it, that is not fair!! Travel around and look at how other people lives. And the number will become 10x,20x if you compare yourself to the majority (over the 3000billion people). You are not smarter than them, more educated or culture(the majority of Americans only speak one language, give me a break)... just lucky. So you are rich!!, today, now. Just because you were born in the right place. It seems that YOU want them to attribute their wealth(people richer than you) to luck, witch is a enormous fallacy, is not true, they are not lazy bastards like your prejudices want it to be(so YOUR mind could have an excuse for not working). It is totally ok for someone to be proud of their work.

winternett 16y ago

Agreed, so many hide behind the veil of hard work and its a lie, most got to their successful points in life based on the wealth opportunity provided by finances or friends. Society needs to begin to look at and understand wealth in this manner. Dynasties always manage to preserve wealth in the world because of their inner-associations, rules, plans and initiations and they rarely recruit total outsiders.Its no tin-foil hat conspiracy, its reality. Opportunity in life is just as beneficial as inherited wealth. You can work for years in an industry and never gain upward mobility because of a lack of personal connections that foster your growth and the insider information and support that you get from those sources, such as being fraternity brothers with a CEO, or knowing/mentoring with someone who has deeper political or financial influence since you were a child, or by having a rich mommy and daddy. Its so much about who you know, and how you start. There have been several people with lots of money who failed by trying to buy their way into high society, without first making friends, we have all witnessed many brilliant meltdowns from Paris Hilton and others who didn't get the memo. We need to start looking into wealth and financial stability and creating opportunities for the best ideas to succeed, not just the ideas with the best marketing campaigns. Mom and Pop is where we need to go, in terms of our future business and development outlook support to end the threats to net neutrality and shoddy/arbitrarily wrong/and unethical big businesses dominating our social landscape...

rick888 16y ago
"Mom and Pop is where we need to go, in terms of our future business and development outlook support to end the threats to net neutrality and shoddy/arbitrarily wrong/and unethical big businesses dominating our social landscape..." Many mom and pop shops turn into big businesses. Are we going to also have a law that prevents a business from growing to a certain size? I also don't think I want a mom and pop store running something like cable. I don't think they would be able to keep up with service calls/support