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> If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. The situation here is more like: if it looks like duck and created/evolved for attracti
by red75prime 9y ago
> If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
The situation here is more like: if it looks like duck and created/evolved for attracting ducks, it's probably a duck or a duck decoy.
While evolutionary value of pain response is clear, evolutionary value of suffering is not.
- xg15 9y agoI could think of plenty of reasons how it increases likelihood if survival, but that's beside the point. There is apparently a lot of evidence that the neural activities that underly the experience of pain in humans happen in much the same way in fish. No matter why this is so, it makes the hypothesis that fish do feel pain more reasonable than the opposite.
- red75prime 9y ago> I could think of plenty of reasons how it increases likelihood if survival Do those reasons remain equally plausible for K- and r-selected species? > it makes the hypothesis that fish do feel pain more reasonable than the opposite. Yes, conditional probability of fish feeling pain given the existence of similar brain activity patterns is higher than otherwise. It doesn't mean that further research can't lower that probability. Like finding more similarities of fish brain processes with brain processes of people who don't feel pain.
- xg15 9y ago> Do those reasons remain equally plausible for K- and r-selected species? What do parenting strategies have to do with any of this? (If I understand wikipedia correctly) > It doesn't mean that further research can't lower that probability. Like finding more similarities of fish brain processes with brain processes of people who don't feel pain. That can always happen, with any kind of research. I don't see how this gives any reason to assume today that fish don't feel pain.