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Life Beyond Distributed Transactions: An Apostate’s Opinion (2016)

67 points by Cieplak 9y ago

saas_co_de 9y ago
2007 ... updated version here http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3025012 http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3025012
- dang 9y ago
  Thanks! Url and date updated above. Submitter url was http://adrianmarriott.net/logosroot/papers/LifeBeyondTxns.pdf http://adrianmarriott.net/logosroot/papers/LifeBeyondTxns.pd.... Submitted interestingly many times without discussion: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=Life%20Beyond%20Distributed%20Transactions&sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=story&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0 https://hn.algolia.com/?query=Life%20Beyond%20Distributed%20....
hodgesrm 9y ago
I have always liked this paper. Pat Helland is a fountain of ideas. Another good one is "Immutability Changes Everything." http://cidrdb.org/cidr2015/Papers/CIDR15_Paper16.pdf http://cidrdb.org/cidr2015/Papers/CIDR15_Paper16.pdf
wsh91 9y ago
This (fantastic) paper is cited in the Google Megastore paper [1] and we actually use the term "entity group" in our product [2] indirectly because of it. Pat Helland is always worth reading; thanks to the submitter for the reminder. [1] https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en//pubs/archive/36971.pdf https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.c... [2] https://cloud.google.com/datastore/docs/articles/balancing-strong-and-eventual-consistency-with-google-cloud-datastore/ https://cloud.google.com/datastore/docs/articles/balancing-s...
- peterwwillis 9y ago
  I would need to read it again, but it smells a lot like high platform availability combined with small traffic, and it looks like a pita to support it (except for the cases where they refuse to support the customers)
  - dgsb 9y ago
    It is really worth reading for anyone doing any highly scalable services (micro or not). This article just pin point any issue we have stumbled on in my current job.
pavlov 9y ago
Isn’t the definition of “entity” here very similar to the original 1970s Smalltalk definition of “object”?

67 points by Cieplak 9y ago

saas_co_de 9y ago

2007 ... updated version here http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3025012 http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3025012

dang 9y ago
Thanks! Url and date updated above. Submitter url was http://adrianmarriott.net/logosroot/papers/LifeBeyondTxns.pdf http://adrianmarriott.net/logosroot/papers/LifeBeyondTxns.pd.... Submitted interestingly many times without discussion: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=Life%20Beyond%20Distributed%20Transactions&sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=story&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0 https://hn.algolia.com/?query=Life%20Beyond%20Distributed%20....

hodgesrm 9y ago

I have always liked this paper. Pat Helland is a fountain of ideas. Another good one is "Immutability Changes Everything." http://cidrdb.org/cidr2015/Papers/CIDR15_Paper16.pdf http://cidrdb.org/cidr2015/Papers/CIDR15_Paper16.pdf

wsh91 9y ago

This (fantastic) paper is cited in the Google Megastore paper [1] and we actually use the term "entity group" in our product [2] indirectly because of it. Pat Helland is always worth reading; thanks to the submitter for the reminder. [1] https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en//pubs/archive/36971.pdf https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.c... [2] https://cloud.google.com/datastore/docs/articles/balancing-strong-and-eventual-consistency-with-google-cloud-datastore/ https://cloud.google.com/datastore/docs/articles/balancing-s...

peterwwillis 9y ago
I would need to read it again, but it smells a lot like high platform availability combined with small traffic, and it looks like a pita to support it (except for the cases where they refuse to support the customers)
- dgsb 9y ago
  It is really worth reading for anyone doing any highly scalable services (micro or not). This article just pin point any issue we have stumbled on in my current job.

pavlov 9y ago

Isn’t the definition of “entity” here very similar to the original 1970s Smalltalk definition of “object”?