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This is probably the easiest problem to solve. Hosting a GoogleSpeedTestBot in every city with the sole purpose of speed testing a page would have laughably neg

by adtac 9y ago

This is probably the easiest problem to solve. Hosting a GoogleSpeedTestBot in every city with the sole purpose of speed testing a page would have laughably negligible impact on Google's resources.

ucaetano 9y ago
You're proposing hosting thousands and thousands of servers across every city in the world where each server would be accessing all the top 1M sites in the world every day and measuring the speed of each page in that site? Seriously?
- adtac 9y ago
  Not every day; at the time of publishing, and maybe few days later. (This could be improved even further: you don't need to access every article. If you could identify a page that's representative of a real article, that could suffice. Maybe have periodic random checks to see if this is still representative.) Not every city; the top 500 cities would probably cover 90+% of the users. You're not understanding the scale of Google. They're incredibly good at exactly this stuff.
  - ucaetano 9y ago
    Oh, I am, but maybe you're not understanding the scale of the internet. Connections, cables, CDNs change on a daily and weekly basis. Is a cable is cut between Jakarta and Singapore, it can take months to fix as Indonesia only allows Indonesian-flagged cable layers to operate in its waters. Individual datacenters, CDNs, cables are going offline constantly, so you'd need to be continuously testing every site to rank it correctly. Not only that, each page in a site might have a very different structure, so you can't just rank a site, you need to rank individual pages and articles too, which means testing every new page and article from every city. I guess you're not getting the scale of that... AMP standardizes the CDN serving part, largely eliminating that issue. AMP articles can't prevent 3rd party CDNs from caching them, which means that they can be served from the closest CDN after the first time they are used.
andrepd 9y ago
Or just use your established botnet aka chrome and android.

by adtac 9y ago

This is probably the easiest problem to solve. Hosting a GoogleSpeedTestBot in every city with the sole purpose of speed testing a page would have laughably negligible impact on Google's resources.

ucaetano 9y ago

You're proposing hosting thousands and thousands of servers across every city in the world where each server would be accessing all the top 1M sites in the world every day and measuring the speed of each page in that site? Seriously?

adtac 9y ago
Not every day; at the time of publishing, and maybe few days later. (This could be improved even further: you don't need to access every article. If you could identify a page that's representative of a real article, that could suffice. Maybe have periodic random checks to see if this is still representative.) Not every city; the top 500 cities would probably cover 90+% of the users. You're not understanding the scale of Google. They're incredibly good at exactly this stuff.
- ucaetano 9y ago
  Oh, I am, but maybe you're not understanding the scale of the internet. Connections, cables, CDNs change on a daily and weekly basis. Is a cable is cut between Jakarta and Singapore, it can take months to fix as Indonesia only allows Indonesian-flagged cable layers to operate in its waters. Individual datacenters, CDNs, cables are going offline constantly, so you'd need to be continuously testing every site to rank it correctly. Not only that, each page in a site might have a very different structure, so you can't just rank a site, you need to rank individual pages and articles too, which means testing every new page and article from every city. I guess you're not getting the scale of that... AMP standardizes the CDN serving part, largely eliminating that issue. AMP articles can't prevent 3rd party CDNs from caching them, which means that they can be served from the closest CDN after the first time they are used.

andrepd 9y ago

Or just use your established botnet aka chrome and android.