3 ms·

> only rich people should have access to content I feel like you're overstating. Yes, only the richest of people, those who can afford to purchase a newspaper

by pfranz 9y ago

> only rich people should have access to content I feel like you're overstating. Yes, only the richest of people, those who can afford to purchase a newspaper, should be able to read the news. For those poor people, maybe there's some organization, like a public library that could invest in things that are seen as a public good? Or organizations wishing to facilitate people passing time, like barber shops, coffee shops, or waiting rooms, would buy them and leave them strewn about as bait for those poorer customers. Personally, I really wish microtransactions were more of a thing starting in the late-90s. I feel like Patreon and others have tried to fill that void. I think it's a false choice between every byte of data behind a paywall and advertisers clawing for more information about every bowel movement in order to cover your screen with promotions.

ucaetano 9y ago
> Yes, only the richest of people, those who can afford to purchase a newspaper, should be able to read the news. Wait, what am I reading? Only people with money should have the right to access news and information?
- blub 9y ago
  With the incessant lobbying you've done in this thread I think it's fair to ask the advertising industry for some donations which you could then use for your other big passion, offering poor people access to information. Yes, it's true that they already have that through national television, cheap newspapers, book exchanges and donations, but if you want something done right, you need to do it yourself.
  - ucaetano 9y ago
    > With the incessant lobbying you've done in this thread I think it's fair to ask the advertising industry for some donations which you could then use for your other big passion, offering poor people access to information. Nice ad hominem. I hate ads, but I know that ads fund a lot of the services and content I consume online. I always have the option to now use those services or consume that content and avoid the ads. Heck, half of HN's commenters would be unemployed if not for ads. Which might actually be a net win for society.
    - pfranz 9y ago
      You're calling out other's logical fallacies but you're not adding anything to the conversation, either. You're pulling basically the same narrow quote, ignoring the rest what others are contributing. IRL microtransactions (nickels and quarters), fueled the vending machine and newspaper economy for the last century. It's a shame there's no digital equivalent because it's very difficult to make credit card transactions under $5 profitable. Also, getting rid of user-tracking wouldn't get rid of Internet ads.

by pfranz 9y ago

ucaetano 9y ago

> Yes, only the richest of people, those who can afford to purchase a newspaper, should be able to read the news. Wait, what am I reading? Only people with money should have the right to access news and information?

blub 9y ago
With the incessant lobbying you've done in this thread I think it's fair to ask the advertising industry for some donations which you could then use for your other big passion, offering poor people access to information. Yes, it's true that they already have that through national television, cheap newspapers, book exchanges and donations, but if you want something done right, you need to do it yourself.
- ucaetano 9y ago
  > With the incessant lobbying you've done in this thread I think it's fair to ask the advertising industry for some donations which you could then use for your other big passion, offering poor people access to information. Nice ad hominem. I hate ads, but I know that ads fund a lot of the services and content I consume online. I always have the option to now use those services or consume that content and avoid the ads. Heck, half of HN's commenters would be unemployed if not for ads. Which might actually be a net win for society.
  - pfranz 9y ago
    You're calling out other's logical fallacies but you're not adding anything to the conversation, either. You're pulling basically the same narrow quote, ignoring the rest what others are contributing. IRL microtransactions (nickels and quarters), fueled the vending machine and newspaper economy for the last century. It's a shame there's no digital equivalent because it's very difficult to make credit card transactions under $5 profitable. Also, getting rid of user-tracking wouldn't get rid of Internet ads.