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> when you need to be able to easily include people who aren't engineers Plenty of people were able to use IRC in the past without IT help or training. They j
by u801e 9y ago
> when you need to be able to easily include people who aren't engineers
Plenty of people were able to use IRC in the past without IT help or training. They just installed a client like mIRC and figured it out from there.
- throwanem 9y agoYes, at a time when Windows 98 was considered a perfectly acceptable desktop operating system, and smartphones didn't yet exist. The UX bar is much higher now.
- bogomipz 9y agoTyping in a text box and reading text on a screen is just as easy now as it was 15 years ago. Typing and reading text on an IRC client is also no more difficult than doing so on Slack.
- throwanem 9y agoAnd yet so many people seem to prefer Slack! Why is that, do you think?
- bogomipz 9y agoWhat a ridiculous statement to make. Here I will invert that for you: "And yet so many people seem to prefer IRC! Why is that, do you think?" You do realize that IRC is practically synonymous with Hacking/UNIX/FOSS culture no? Since you don't seem to be big on providing any actual data for your claim, here are some substantial projects in the FOSS community that use IRC: Debian, Docker, Prometheus, Django, Angular, ReactJS, FreeBSD Node.js, Mozilla, Haskell, Golang, Openstack, Erlang, Ubuntu. Why do you think that is?
- throwanem 9y agoWeren't we talking about businesses? Not really seeing where the FOSS community model applies.
- bogomipz 9y agoNo we were talking about the absurd statements you made concerning IRC, that it requires "relatively rare expertise" and "extreme effort." Neither of which is true. My last comment was pointing out the further absurd and unsubstantiated claim you made that "so many people seem to prefer Slack!" I think it's a pretty good illustration of "so many people" who don't prefer Slack.
- throwanem 9y agoIf you're going to take part of my claim out of its context and argue against it as though it were the whole or indeed even made sense in isolation, then you're welcome, I suppose. If you decide you feel like arguing what I'm actually saying, you know where to find me.
- bogomipz 9y agoYou have made claims that are unsubstantiated such as IRC is harder to use, requires rare expertise, and "so many people prefer slack(unsubstantiated.) I have refuted all of these claims and even provided exampled of how where this isn't true. Now you want to say I took your comments out of context. I suggest maybe you should re-read the conversation. The context is textual communication tools.