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Erg, the idea of Google phoning home information about each page I visit at the browser level is a bit terrifying...

by stevenleeg 9y ago

jstanley 9y ago
How confident are you that that doesn't happen already?
- Skunkleton 9y ago
  It certainly does happen already if you are opted into it.
  - pdkl95 9y ago
    It certainly does happen already without having to opt-in for the many sites that collaborate with Google, reporting your interactions with their site to GA.
    - Skunkleton 9y ago
      I was trying to avoid making a controversial statement. I didn't mean to imply that you were explicitly opting in, just that you are opted in.
TeMPOraL 9y ago
It does happen already - after all, you have shared browsing history between logged in devices using Chrome. My idea doesn't require anything new except them measuring load times, which I'm guessing they're doing already for improving Chrome, and then using this data to influence search ranking. Everything else is already set up and working, and you opt into it if you're using Chrome and are logged in browser-wide.
vinniejames 9y ago
It already happens with every site using Google Analytics, which is nearly every site you visit...
- irrational 9y ago
  Unless you are running add-ons that block Google Analytics, which I would assume everyone here would already be doing.
  - falcolas 9y ago
    Everyone here constitutes maybe 1% of total traffic on the internet; still plenty of data points to be had.
  - nirvdrum 9y ago
    Last I knew, you couldn't disable Chrome's async DNS feature, which will bypass your system's configured DNS servers and use Google's own. So, while certainly not the same level of tracking that Google Analytics or even browser history can perform, many (all?) domains you visit are still sent back to Google in one form or another: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=432236 https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=432236
    - irrational 9y ago
      Well, I don't use Chrome. Do you know if this affects Firefox as well?
      - nirvdrum 9y ago
        It shouldn't. I must've just gotten myself mixed up. I thought this thread was about Chrome phoning home. Sorry for propagating confusion.
    - TeMPOraL 9y ago
      Holy hell. So this is the dumb DNS crap Chrome is doing. I had occasional issues with Chrome suddenly not being able to load anything due to what looked like obvious DNS issues, except they didn't affect anything else and there was no way for me to do anything with it except wait it out. There were moments I thought I'm imagining things.
sjwright 9y ago
If if was every page, that would be terrifying. But if it only measured the speed of pages directly linked from a Google search result, I would be fine with that. Google wouldn't be learning anything new there.

Erg, the idea of Google phoning home information about each page I visit at the browser level is a bit terrifying...

jstanley 9y ago

How confident are you that that doesn't happen already?

Skunkleton 9y ago
It certainly does happen already if you are opted into it.
- pdkl95 9y ago
  It certainly does happen already without having to opt-in for the many sites that collaborate with Google, reporting your interactions with their site to GA.
  - Skunkleton 9y ago
    I was trying to avoid making a controversial statement. I didn't mean to imply that you were explicitly opting in, just that you are opted in.

TeMPOraL 9y ago

It does happen already - after all, you have shared browsing history between logged in devices using Chrome. My idea doesn't require anything new except them measuring load times, which I'm guessing they're doing already for improving Chrome, and then using this data to influence search ranking. Everything else is already set up and working, and you opt into it if you're using Chrome and are logged in browser-wide.

vinniejames 9y ago

It already happens with every site using Google Analytics, which is nearly every site you visit...

irrational 9y ago
Unless you are running add-ons that block Google Analytics, which I would assume everyone here would already be doing.
- falcolas 9y ago
  Everyone here constitutes maybe 1% of total traffic on the internet; still plenty of data points to be had.
- nirvdrum 9y ago
  Last I knew, you couldn't disable Chrome's async DNS feature, which will bypass your system's configured DNS servers and use Google's own. So, while certainly not the same level of tracking that Google Analytics or even browser history can perform, many (all?) domains you visit are still sent back to Google in one form or another: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=432236 https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=432236
  - irrational 9y ago
    Well, I don't use Chrome. Do you know if this affects Firefox as well?
    - nirvdrum 9y ago
      It shouldn't. I must've just gotten myself mixed up. I thought this thread was about Chrome phoning home. Sorry for propagating confusion.
  - TeMPOraL 9y ago
    Holy hell. So this is the dumb DNS crap Chrome is doing. I had occasional issues with Chrome suddenly not being able to load anything due to what looked like obvious DNS issues, except they didn't affect anything else and there was no way for me to do anything with it except wait it out. There were moments I thought I'm imagining things.

sjwright 9y ago

If if was every page, that would be terrifying. But if it only measured the speed of pages directly linked from a Google search result, I would be fine with that. Google wouldn't be learning anything new there.