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I am honestly sick of hearing "but no one will create anything without copyright" as if money was the sole motivator that made doing anything worthwhile. To be
by Chardok 9y ago
I am honestly sick of hearing "but no one will create anything without copyright" as if money was the sole motivator that made doing anything worthwhile.
To be fair, I think copyright has its place as a minimal safeguard for artists' work, but in its current form it is entirely too aggressive and lasts way beyond its scope should cover. Copyright should not be reason to send SWAT raids to people's homes, just as much as it should not cover 70 years after the artists' death.
I am certain that if we seriously rolled back copyright, our art would still thrive, albeit perhaps less AAA content.
- Crespyl 9y agoI generally try to be aware of copyright enforcement related issues, but haven't heard of SWAT operations in direct response to copyright incidents. Is there a source you can link, or were you just exaggerating for rhetorical effect?
- ABCLAW 9y agoThe Kim Dotcom raid was fairly public knowledge at the time it occurred. I'd start there. Not quite to the level of actual SWAT operations, but far more common are Anton Piller orders. These orders are still used with decent frequency in IP cases because the evidence in question is often easily destroyed and the cases are often existential-crisis-level disputes for one or both parties.
- Chardok 9y agoKim Dotcom raid video is here - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/video/2012/aug/08/kim-dotcom-raid-police-mansion-video https://www.theguardian.com/technology/video/2012/aug/08/kim... RIAA SWAT Raid in Atlanta - http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/18/magazine/18djdrama.t.html http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/18/magazine/18djdrama.t.html Those are the two biggest ones I can think of, but both are examples of literal deadly force used for copyright violations.
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- rayiner 9y agoThe issue isn’t whether you can create things without copyright. It’s whether you can create Star Wars Episode XYZ without copyright. The answer is probably not, for the same reason you don’t have open source laptops with the fit and finish of a MacBook Pro. The thing is: absolutely nothing is preventing people from creating content without copyright. So what exactly is the problem? AAA content gets produced and monetized using copyright protection. People are free to use copyleft for their indie content. And at the end of the day, the market speaks and AAA content is what people want. Saying that “getting rid of copyright would be fine except we’d probably get less AAA content” this is completely unresponsive. The “SWAT team” issue is a red herring. I don’t think we should have SWAT teams responding if my neighbor’s fence encroaches onto my land, but that doesn’t say anything about whether I should have an enforceable property right in the boundaries of my yard.