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It blows my mind that a mental ill person is ending up homeless like this. Society should take care of theses cases.

by kentiko 9y ago

gt_ 9y ago
The closest thing we offer is prison these days. :(
krapp 9y ago
Unfortunately, he was born into a society that would prefer the mentally ill take care of themselves.
- b6 9y ago
  I can't lay that much blame on society. Have you tried to take care of a mentally ill person? It's common for them to make it extremely difficult. Schizophrenia often seems to cause its sufferers to be absolutely certain they are not mentally ill at all. I've walked around for hours looking for a mentally ill woman to give her a care package, only to be attacked by her a few days afterward.
  - supreme_sublime 9y ago
    It really is sad. The only schizophrenic person I've interacted with was thankfully on medication and it seemed to help a lot. A very sweet elderly woman. I have spent a decent amount of time watching https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaUOTQQBc3EO5sVjVusMn8A https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaUOTQQBc3EO5sVjVusMn8A She is a schizophrenic woman in Boston iirc. Watching her delusions and obsession with various objects is fascinating and heartbreaking. I really want to talk to her just to try to understand better. I think it is impossible simply because something is wrong inside her brain. I wouldn't be able to rationalize why traffic cones aren't some kind of grand conspiracy of the Patriarchy. I think she is homeless now, I hope she gets the help she desperately needs.
dhruvparamhans 9y ago
Hardly surprising in the united states I would think.
justinesson 9y ago
Do you think that mental health treatment should just be made available for free, or that people should be forced to use it as well? Because the problem with the former is that people with mental health issues will likely not cooperate. And the problem with the latter is that forced medical treatment because someone's mind doesn't work the way you think it should is a very very dark thing to start doing...
DanBC 9y ago
Some people with mental illness reject medical help. At that point it can be hard to force them to have treatment against their will. This is for good reason - forced psychiatric treatment has been abused before. Forcing someone to have treatment against their will is an interference with their human rights. We tolerate that if they pose a risk of serious harm to other people[1] or to themselves. Another reason we don't just scoop homeless people off the street and forcibly medicate them is that treatment for psychosis isn't particuarly great - it's not effective for some people and the medications carry a range of severe side effects. The best thing we can do is provide correctly funded "assertive outreach teams". Here's a description of one assertive outreach worker's day: https://www.theguardian.com/healthcare-network/views-from-the-nhs-frontline/2017/aug/21/assertive-outreach-team-community-care-mental-illness https://www.theguardian.com/healthcare-network/views-from-th...

It blows my mind that a mental ill person is ending up homeless like this. Society should take care of theses cases.

gt_ 9y ago

The closest thing we offer is prison these days. :(

krapp 9y ago

Unfortunately, he was born into a society that would prefer the mentally ill take care of themselves.

b6 9y ago
I can't lay that much blame on society. Have you tried to take care of a mentally ill person? It's common for them to make it extremely difficult. Schizophrenia often seems to cause its sufferers to be absolutely certain they are not mentally ill at all. I've walked around for hours looking for a mentally ill woman to give her a care package, only to be attacked by her a few days afterward.
- supreme_sublime 9y ago
  It really is sad. The only schizophrenic person I've interacted with was thankfully on medication and it seemed to help a lot. A very sweet elderly woman. I have spent a decent amount of time watching https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaUOTQQBc3EO5sVjVusMn8A https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaUOTQQBc3EO5sVjVusMn8A She is a schizophrenic woman in Boston iirc. Watching her delusions and obsession with various objects is fascinating and heartbreaking. I really want to talk to her just to try to understand better. I think it is impossible simply because something is wrong inside her brain. I wouldn't be able to rationalize why traffic cones aren't some kind of grand conspiracy of the Patriarchy. I think she is homeless now, I hope she gets the help she desperately needs.

dhruvparamhans 9y ago

Hardly surprising in the united states I would think.

justinesson 9y ago

Do you think that mental health treatment should just be made available for free, or that people should be forced to use it as well? Because the problem with the former is that people with mental health issues will likely not cooperate. And the problem with the latter is that forced medical treatment because someone's mind doesn't work the way you think it should is a very very dark thing to start doing...

DanBC 9y ago

Some people with mental illness reject medical help. At that point it can be hard to force them to have treatment against their will. This is for good reason - forced psychiatric treatment has been abused before. Forcing someone to have treatment against their will is an interference with their human rights. We tolerate that if they pose a risk of serious harm to other people[1] or to themselves. Another reason we don't just scoop homeless people off the street and forcibly medicate them is that treatment for psychosis isn't particuarly great - it's not effective for some people and the medications carry a range of severe side effects. The best thing we can do is provide correctly funded "assertive outreach teams". Here's a description of one assertive outreach worker's day: https://www.theguardian.com/healthcare-network/views-from-the-nhs-frontline/2017/aug/21/assertive-outreach-team-community-care-mental-illness https://www.theguardian.com/healthcare-network/views-from-th...