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I doubt the diet soda is going to be much better for you. Seattle seems crazy. Banning plastic straws. Sure wouldn't want to live there, maybe visit but they ev

by Keverw 9y ago

I doubt the diet soda is going to be much better for you. Seattle seems crazy. Banning plastic straws. Sure wouldn't want to live there, maybe visit but they even want to ban people from driving gas and diesels into the city! So I guess skip them on the road trip across the country once they do! Electric cars are all about control, limiting freedoms and are gimmicky. The new Tesla you have to use the touch screen to even open the glove box! Even the AC is touch screen based - which I think is unsafe compared to a tactile physical knob. http://komonews.com/news/local/seattle-other-major-world-cities-pledge-to-ban-gas-diesel-vehicles http://komonews.com/news/local/seattle-other-major-world-cit... - wonder how huge of a fine they'll give to tourists just passing through. I really think these local governments are out of control. I really hope the feds step in and do something to them using the Commerce Clause to end this nonsense. I think there are certain things cities should be prohibited from regulating.

icebraining 9y ago
So you want to ban them from banning stuff? What's wrong with local citizens deciding what they want for their own city, anyway? The new Tesla you have to use the touch screen to even open the glove box! Even the AC is touch screen based - which I think is unsafe compared to a tactile physical knob. I fully agree, but that has nothing to do with being an electric car. The Chevy Bolt has a regular knob for AC control, for example: http://st.automobilemag.com/uploads/sites/11/2017/03/Chevrolet-Bolt-EV-2017-All-Star-Winner-climate-control.jpg http://st.automobilemag.com/uploads/sites/11/2017/03/Chevrol...
- Keverw 9y ago
  Nice about the Bolt. I just feel like Silicon Valley and other cities like LA and Seattle are out of touch with the rest of America, and some sort of bubble of repeating ideas over and over again. I care about the environment but I also think we have to be practical about it. Newer and newer gas cars are getting cleaner and more efficient. Or maybe someone enjoys off roading in their Jeep. or someone out of state is touring the nation in their Diesel Pusher RV. I just think it's crazy for a city to try to ban people who live in other cities from even being allowed to drive there based on their car. Well by 2030 and the article mentions the mayor, so maybe it will never happen. I just hate that idea. Maybe the tourism or chamber of commerce would step up for that one. At least with the soda tax you can just drive out of the city and buy it cheaper like the signs they posted mentioned at the store.
  - dagw 9y ago
    I just feel like Silicon Valley and other cities like LA and Seattle are out of touch with the rest of America I thought that was one of the cool features of the US. That cities and states are much more free to come up with their own way to do things and test out new ideas without always having to go the federal government and ask for permission. If Seattle wants to do A and Minneapolis wants to do B, they can just go and do it and see what happens instead of lobbying the government to make either A or B mandatory across the whole country.
jmknoll 9y ago
Isn’t one of the central tenets of federalism that everything should be done by the smallest government that can do it effectively? If something is done at the municipal level, it is almost definitely more democratic than if it is done at the federal level. If someone doesn’t like Seattle’s sugar tax, they can make their voice heard in city council elections, or vote with their feet, move to the suburbs, and commute into the city. Presumably the people of Seattle are down with the tax. Who are you to say they shouldn’t have it. It’s their city, after all.

by Keverw 9y ago

icebraining 9y ago

So you want to ban them from banning stuff? What's wrong with local citizens deciding what they want for their own city, anyway? The new Tesla you have to use the touch screen to even open the glove box! Even the AC is touch screen based - which I think is unsafe compared to a tactile physical knob. I fully agree, but that has nothing to do with being an electric car. The Chevy Bolt has a regular knob for AC control, for example: http://st.automobilemag.com/uploads/sites/11/2017/03/Chevrolet-Bolt-EV-2017-All-Star-Winner-climate-control.jpg http://st.automobilemag.com/uploads/sites/11/2017/03/Chevrol...

Keverw 9y ago
Nice about the Bolt. I just feel like Silicon Valley and other cities like LA and Seattle are out of touch with the rest of America, and some sort of bubble of repeating ideas over and over again. I care about the environment but I also think we have to be practical about it. Newer and newer gas cars are getting cleaner and more efficient. Or maybe someone enjoys off roading in their Jeep. or someone out of state is touring the nation in their Diesel Pusher RV. I just think it's crazy for a city to try to ban people who live in other cities from even being allowed to drive there based on their car. Well by 2030 and the article mentions the mayor, so maybe it will never happen. I just hate that idea. Maybe the tourism or chamber of commerce would step up for that one. At least with the soda tax you can just drive out of the city and buy it cheaper like the signs they posted mentioned at the store.
- dagw 9y ago
  I just feel like Silicon Valley and other cities like LA and Seattle are out of touch with the rest of America I thought that was one of the cool features of the US. That cities and states are much more free to come up with their own way to do things and test out new ideas without always having to go the federal government and ask for permission. If Seattle wants to do A and Minneapolis wants to do B, they can just go and do it and see what happens instead of lobbying the government to make either A or B mandatory across the whole country.

jmknoll 9y ago

Isn’t one of the central tenets of federalism that everything should be done by the smallest government that can do it effectively? If something is done at the municipal level, it is almost definitely more democratic than if it is done at the federal level. If someone doesn’t like Seattle’s sugar tax, they can make their voice heard in city council elections, or vote with their feet, move to the suburbs, and commute into the city. Presumably the people of Seattle are down with the tax. Who are you to say they shouldn’t have it. It’s their city, after all.