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This is not about politics. It is about basic human decency. There have been some that have since they to make it a social political thing. But the courts do
by jacksmith21006 9y ago
This is not about politics. It is about basic human decency. There have been some that have since they to make it a social political thing. But the courts do not care about such things. You could never have someone like Damore on a team once they shared such an opinion. He should have kept it in his head. Why now nobody will hire him.
- stale2002 9y agoI mean, the law is the law. The person I was responding to specifically suggested making politics not allow at work. This suggestion is illegal. California law is extremely pro employee.
- jacksmith21006 9y agoActually California is very pro employer and maybe what you meant? Google obviously has a lot of reasons to fire Damore but they do not even need a reason. Former Google engineer sitting at home unemployed and unable to find a job supports he should have been fired.
- stale2002 9y agoGoogle can fire people for no reason, but that can't fire people for an illegal reason. And google definitely didn't fire him for no reason. It is illegal to engage in "Forbidding or preventing employees from engaging or participating in politics or from becoming candidates for public office." Here is the california law in question: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=LAB§ionNum=1101 http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection... If there are smoking gun emails that say "We are going to fire him for his politics", then Google broke the law. All this information will come out during the lawsuit, and during discovery, if it exists.
- oneeyedpigeon 9y ago"Forbidding or preventing employees from engaging or participating in politics" sounds to me like a company can't prevent you from voting, or attending a political rally in your non-work time. It doesn't sound to me like a company can't make decisions based on your 'political' views, including treating you more or less favourably relative to other employees or candidates. I put political in quotes back there simply because it's a word that can be bent in all sorts of directions to mean anything from Politics to simply having an opinion on something. Remember, the opinion might be highly offensive and make working with others, on a team, more difficult.
- LyndsySimon 9y ago> Remember, the opinion might be highly offensive and make working with others, on a team, more difficult. I'm no lawyer, but I don't see how this would make any difference. Consider that a black man in rural Mississippi in the 1960s would have had a very difficult time serving white patrons at a restaurant; I don't think "people didn't like him working for us" is a viable defense here.
- jacksmith21006 9y agoAre you from the US? In the US and CA you can be fired for basically any reason that a company wants as long as you are not a protected class which Damore is not. But here it is so black and white on firing him this entire discussion is a bit ridiculous. The entire thing is some weird PR thing driven by the right wing. Any company I am familiar with in the US would have fired Damore. It is also why nobody will hire him. It is also why he now has his GF filter him.
- LyndsySimon 9y agoYes, I live in Arkansas. An employer here can legally fire someone because they have a bumper sticker on their car for the wrong candidate. In California, however, political affiliation is a protected class under state law.
- jacksmith21006 9y agoI am not sure where you are at but in the US and CA you can fire someone for basically any reason they want. Say he farted in a meeting and he can be fired. This is very different in the US versus other parts of the world. But here it is pretty easy because ANY company I am familiar with in the US would fire Damore. It is just how things work in the US. You do not write what he wrote and share it. Might not be fair but how things work. It is also why he is sitting at home and nobody will hire him. All of this has ZERO to do with politics and him being right leaning. The issue has been cop-opt by the right wing to use it to gen up their base. This is NOT a political issue as it appears you think. Writing what he did about women is NOT political. It is just human decency and something you just do not do. Why do you think he now has his GF filter what he writes?
- stale2002 9y agoI literally just pointed you to the law in question. It is illegal to prevent someone from "engaging" in politics, as per the California law I just linked you. It is not legal to fire someone for "basically any reason" if it was for the illegal reason that I have linked. Maybe what he did does not count as politics. You could make that argument. But your argument about how it is possible to fire someone for any reason is untrue, as per the law.