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It's not about being politically correct, it's about not implying that your female coworkers don't deserve their jobs. before someone says "He didn't do that,

by lurr 9y ago

It's not about being politically correct, it's about not implying that your female coworkers don't deserve their jobs. before someone says "He didn't do that, you obviously never read it", I did and I still believe it's a conclusion that he leads the reader to. Not sure it was intentional. Also the whole "too neurotic for leadership" bit. WTF was he thinking with that.

matmusmeows 9y ago
I read Demores paper and I didn't get the impression that he thought that about female co workers. To me his main point seemed to be that women by number arnt as interested in tech as males are. On your second point it's easy to look back on the paper and pick at the way some of it comes across but I don't think he ever imagined it becoming the published and the political hot potato it became. Maybe he would have been more careful with the wording if he could have seen into the future, unfortunately we don't have that skill yet.
jacksmith21006 9y ago
Totally agree. How in the world could you have Damore on a team with women after the memo is out and people know he wrote it? I have never bought into this is some social political thing but rather just basic human decency. Never understood how the right wing got a hold of this and my only guess it was Damore or someone from the right wing that wanted this rather obvious HR issue as some social political issue. It is not in reality. Any company would have diciplined Damore including firing. A manager is responsible for everyone including the women.
- sintaxi 9y ago
  Google expects people to work with people who openly hate white men. Just take a look at some of their twitter feeds. Damore expressed no such opinion of women he just has a broader explanation for under-representation in tech other than sexism.
  - jacksmith21006 9y ago
    Google is a for profit company. Damore obviously did not help that with his views of women and Google did as any company with a brain would do and get rid of him. Why on Earth do you think a former Google engineer is sitting at home unemployed? You would never want him on a team that had to get something done. There is so many reasons to fire him and it is California so Google did not even need a reason. But the more interesting thing is how did the become a right wing thing? Who was able to pull that off and use this as something to gen up the right wing? Is it not a bit manipulative of the right wingers? Do they not see it?
    - nailer 9y ago
      > Why on Earth do you think a former Google engineer is sitting at home unemployed? Because he's busy - see the title of this post.
    - sintaxi 9y ago
      A company with a brain hires a lawyer to look at the issue when an employee expresses concern that the company is breaking laws with their hiring practices. Firing someone who expresses those concerns makes the problem infinitely worse as we are seeing.

by lurr 9y ago

matmusmeows 9y ago

I read Demores paper and I didn't get the impression that he thought that about female co workers. To me his main point seemed to be that women by number arnt as interested in tech as males are. On your second point it's easy to look back on the paper and pick at the way some of it comes across but I don't think he ever imagined it becoming the published and the political hot potato it became. Maybe he would have been more careful with the wording if he could have seen into the future, unfortunately we don't have that skill yet.

jacksmith21006 9y ago

Totally agree. How in the world could you have Damore on a team with women after the memo is out and people know he wrote it? I have never bought into this is some social political thing but rather just basic human decency. Never understood how the right wing got a hold of this and my only guess it was Damore or someone from the right wing that wanted this rather obvious HR issue as some social political issue. It is not in reality. Any company would have diciplined Damore including firing. A manager is responsible for everyone including the women.

sintaxi 9y ago
Google expects people to work with people who openly hate white men. Just take a look at some of their twitter feeds. Damore expressed no such opinion of women he just has a broader explanation for under-representation in tech other than sexism.
- jacksmith21006 9y ago
  Google is a for profit company. Damore obviously did not help that with his views of women and Google did as any company with a brain would do and get rid of him. Why on Earth do you think a former Google engineer is sitting at home unemployed? You would never want him on a team that had to get something done. There is so many reasons to fire him and it is California so Google did not even need a reason. But the more interesting thing is how did the become a right wing thing? Who was able to pull that off and use this as something to gen up the right wing? Is it not a bit manipulative of the right wingers? Do they not see it?
  - nailer 9y ago
    > Why on Earth do you think a former Google engineer is sitting at home unemployed? Because he's busy - see the title of this post.
  - sintaxi 9y ago
    A company with a brain hires a lawyer to look at the issue when an employee expresses concern that the company is breaking laws with their hiring practices. Firing someone who expresses those concerns makes the problem infinitely worse as we are seeing.