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> All three of them are solidly classical liberal, which is probably right of center today Classical liberal just seems like yet another rebranding by people w
by lurr 9y ago
> All three of them are solidly classical liberal, which is probably right of center today
Classical liberal just seems like yet another rebranding by people who don't want to just call themselves conservatives. I've yet to hear a "classical liberal" who doesn't seem like yet another libertarian/conservative.
- cholantesh 9y agoJordan Peterson especially sounds like every traditionalist Catholic I know. Which is fine, but at least they wear their stripes proudly.
- vowelless 9y agoWhich is why I stated that they are right of center... I agree, classical liberalism is basically right wing / conservative / libertarian. America generally is right wing, going back to it's founding.
- nailer 9y agoI've consistenly voted Labour / Labor for all my life, and my poliics haven't changed. I still believe in looking after the elderly, children and the ill, and negotation. I loved Milliband. But the left (at least Labour in the UK) has been siezed by a hard left group called Momentum, that supports far-left political violence, is often openly hostile to people based on skin color and gender. Classical liberals haven't changed, the far-left has just taken over left wing politics.
- nailer 9y agoSmall edit: "and negotation" should be "and collective negotation"
- pas 9y agoMost of those "classical liberals" are now branded "leftists". Anyway, what's the definition of classical liberal, conservative? It's a mishmash of random "single issues" thrown together. The definition changes as it's convenient for the optimization game of politics, as parties, groups, power structures try to maintain their relevance, try to get more voters, more support, more donations, more allies, and so on. No internal consistency, no moral foundations, no logic, no principles.