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reading through your history there is an obvious bias in who you choose to say this to based on your personal ideology. not to mention your various strictly ide

by wooter 9y ago

reading through your history there is an obvious bias in who you choose to say this to based on your personal ideology. not to mention your various strictly ideological and political submissions. disappointing as that seems like an abuse of the guidelines and your power.

dang 9y ago
People's image of HN mods' political bias is entirely predictable from their own ideological affiliation. Strong rightists think we (and HN itself) lean left, strong leftists think we (and HN) lean right. Since the conclusions you all draw are so contradictory, I don't think these charges have much informational value—at least not about us. There's clearly a cognitive bias at work here. If you don't believe me, here are some quite typical posts that run the contrary direction to yours: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16019694 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16019694 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15307091 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15307091 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15034119 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15034119 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14529468 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14529468 These people are having the same reaction as you are, they just start from the opposite end of the football field. That doesn't mean we're magic centrists in a centrist fairyland. It means the situation is affected by other factors, some of which aren't obvious. If you want to look at this objectively you have to work to suspend your own political feelings, which is not easy to do and not something many people want to.
- wooter 9y ago
  this isn't a mathematical proof. a few counter-examples are easy to create. i looked pretty comprehensively at your history and i think the bias is beyond obvious. > If you want to look at this objectively you have to work to suspend your own political feelings, which is not easy to do and not something many people want to. And something I think you have failed at doing. (As you believe of me, so I guess agree to disagree.) However, you are the one bringing it up in a moralistic and pedantic way from a position of power as a moderator.
- mythrwy 9y ago
  LOL. You guys do an excellent job overall but you are in tech in the Bay Area no? An area where gravity is different and the poles are reversed. Where whirlpools spin backwards. An area unlike any other. In an international industry filled with young, intelligent, usually college educated people. And, if the above is correct it's totally fine. Almost every community will have a majority opinion and the cool part is that the staff at HN doesn't let it get too far out of control. And I have seen posts complaining about large numbers of "fascists" on HN for instance which blew my mind, but apparently it is largely a matter of perspective. Incidentally, I keep saying this and people don't apparently agree, but not everything fits neatly in boxes of left and right. My belief is that people who are really thinking will find, given time that they don't eternally fit neatly in either category.

by wooter 9y ago

dang 9y ago

People's image of HN mods' political bias is entirely predictable from their own ideological affiliation. Strong rightists think we (and HN itself) lean left, strong leftists think we (and HN) lean right. Since the conclusions you all draw are so contradictory, I don't think these charges have much informational value—at least not about us. There's clearly a cognitive bias at work here. If you don't believe me, here are some quite typical posts that run the contrary direction to yours: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16019694 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16019694 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15307091 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15307091 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15034119 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15034119 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14529468 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14529468 These people are having the same reaction as you are, they just start from the opposite end of the football field. That doesn't mean we're magic centrists in a centrist fairyland. It means the situation is affected by other factors, some of which aren't obvious. If you want to look at this objectively you have to work to suspend your own political feelings, which is not easy to do and not something many people want to.

wooter 9y ago
this isn't a mathematical proof. a few counter-examples are easy to create. i looked pretty comprehensively at your history and i think the bias is beyond obvious. > If you want to look at this objectively you have to work to suspend your own political feelings, which is not easy to do and not something many people want to. And something I think you have failed at doing. (As you believe of me, so I guess agree to disagree.) However, you are the one bringing it up in a moralistic and pedantic way from a position of power as a moderator.
mythrwy 9y ago
LOL. You guys do an excellent job overall but you are in tech in the Bay Area no? An area where gravity is different and the poles are reversed. Where whirlpools spin backwards. An area unlike any other. In an international industry filled with young, intelligent, usually college educated people. And, if the above is correct it's totally fine. Almost every community will have a majority opinion and the cool part is that the staff at HN doesn't let it get too far out of control. And I have seen posts complaining about large numbers of "fascists" on HN for instance which blew my mind, but apparently it is largely a matter of perspective. Incidentally, I keep saying this and people don't apparently agree, but not everything fits neatly in boxes of left and right. My belief is that people who are really thinking will find, given time that they don't eternally fit neatly in either category.