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While technically correct, you're missing what matters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index

by erkkie 9y ago

meuk 9y ago
How am I missing what matters? The glycemic index of most fruits is higher than, for example, the glycemic index of sweetened yoghurt. So it makes little sense to eat fruits instead of sweetened yoghurt (but it would be a lot better then, say, sweet cereals).
- erkkie 9y ago
  What matters is added sugar anything is higher in glycemic index compared to the same thing with no added sugar. You're correct in that adding fibre would alleviate some of it but might as well eat the real thing without added sugar and take a piece of fruit. It's bound to be easier and better absorbed (containing various cofactors) compared to trying to emulate the cocktail with added vitamins and fibre. In addition dairy is notoriously insulinogenic so not necessarily a good comparison (although non added sugar full fat yoghurt is probably okay).
  - meuk 9y ago
    > What matters is added sugar anything is higher in glycemic index compared to the same thing with no added sugar. Of course! And I agree with you as well that the diet of the general population improves vastly by eating no added sugar. However, many people interpret this as 'added sugar is worse for you than natural sugar' - and I hate this kind of misinterpretation because it makes people vulnerable for companies that brand their products as 'natural' and double the price. To make an extreme analogy (in general comparing sugar with harddrugs is idiotic and dramatic), when a drug abuser goes from using cocaine and speed to only using speed, his health may improve, and he might claim 'I feel so much better since I started using speed exclusively!'. He might then argue that speed is OK, and cocaine is evil. See where I am going? The rule should be to have a healthy intake, not on dogma's like 'added sugar is bad, natural sugar is OK'. A more concrete example: three slices of bread with peanut butter and vitamin pills contain 100% of your RDI, 12g of fibers, and 4.5 gram of sugar (I think American peanut butter might be sweeter, though). An apple and a banana contain 5g of fibers, and 22g of sugar. In addition, bread + peanut butter + vitamins pills is a lot cheaper than fruit.

While technically correct, you're missing what matters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index

by erkkie 9y ago

While technically correct, you're missing what matters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index

meuk 9y ago

How am I missing what matters? The glycemic index of most fruits is higher than, for example, the glycemic index of sweetened yoghurt. So it makes little sense to eat fruits instead of sweetened yoghurt (but it would be a lot better then, say, sweet cereals).

erkkie 9y ago
What matters is added sugar anything is higher in glycemic index compared to the same thing with no added sugar. You're correct in that adding fibre would alleviate some of it but might as well eat the real thing without added sugar and take a piece of fruit. It's bound to be easier and better absorbed (containing various cofactors) compared to trying to emulate the cocktail with added vitamins and fibre. In addition dairy is notoriously insulinogenic so not necessarily a good comparison (although non added sugar full fat yoghurt is probably okay).
- meuk 9y ago
  > What matters is added sugar anything is higher in glycemic index compared to the same thing with no added sugar. Of course! And I agree with you as well that the diet of the general population improves vastly by eating no added sugar. However, many people interpret this as 'added sugar is worse for you than natural sugar' - and I hate this kind of misinterpretation because it makes people vulnerable for companies that brand their products as 'natural' and double the price. To make an extreme analogy (in general comparing sugar with harddrugs is idiotic and dramatic), when a drug abuser goes from using cocaine and speed to only using speed, his health may improve, and he might claim 'I feel so much better since I started using speed exclusively!'. He might then argue that speed is OK, and cocaine is evil. See where I am going? The rule should be to have a healthy intake, not on dogma's like 'added sugar is bad, natural sugar is OK'. A more concrete example: three slices of bread with peanut butter and vitamin pills contain 100% of your RDI, 12g of fibers, and 4.5 gram of sugar (I think American peanut butter might be sweeter, though). An apple and a banana contain 5g of fibers, and 22g of sugar. In addition, bread + peanut butter + vitamins pills is a lot cheaper than fruit.