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Saturated fat has a lot of downsides and usually comes along with extra cholesterol. Stick to unsaturated (i.e. vegetable) fats for the sake of your cardiovascu

Saturated fat has a lot of downsides and usually comes along with extra cholesterol. Stick to unsaturated (i.e. vegetable) fats for the sake of your cardiovascular system.

rapind 9y ago
This is under debate. A lot of recent research seems to be leaning the other way on cholesterol.
- wskinner 9y ago
  Can you cite any of the research? Here is a decent overview, but I would love to learn more. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/cholesterol/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/cholesterol/
  - rapind 9y ago
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/old-cholesterol-warnings-steeped-in-soft-science-may-be-lifted-in-u-s-1.2953462 http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/old-cholesterol-warnings-steep...
    - cageface 9y ago
      The book cited in this article that so many claim exonerates fats has been thoroughly debunked. https://thescienceofnutrition.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/the-big-fat-surprise-a-critical-review-part-1/ https://thescienceofnutrition.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/the-b...
      - rapind 9y ago
        That's a good read, thanks.
- cageface 9y ago
  The meat and dairy industries are doing their best to obscure the truth on this issue. Postprandial cholesterol blood levels are a direct function of dietary cholesterol. For example: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-do-we-know-that-cholesterol-causes-heart-disease/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-do-we-know-that-cholest... People want to hear they can eat all the eggs and butter and bacon they want but it’s just not true.
jackhack 9y ago
The thinking on this has completely inverted in the past 5 years. The correlation between dietary consumption of cholesterol and serum (blood level) cholesterol is limited at best. Studies which showed a linear relationship were flawed. Put simply, it is now thought that cholesterol is a plaster over the arterial inflammation caused by sugars. It is a symptom, not a cause of plaques.
- cageface 9y ago
  This is a snow job by the meat, egg and dairy industries. Don’t believe it. Downvotes should at least try to address the facts in this video. https://youtu.be/vBtfzd43t8o https://youtu.be/vBtfzd43t8o
  - sn9 9y ago
    Here you go: https://examine.com/nutrition/is-saturated-fat-bad-for-me/ https://examine.com/nutrition/is-saturated-fat-bad-for-me/ Actual studies linked within.
    - cageface 9y ago
      The conclusion from the very first review cited in your article (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20351774 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20351774): These findings provide evidence that consuming PUFA in place of SFA reduces CHD events in RCTs. i.e. replacing saturated fats with unsaturated fats reduces your risk of cardiovascular disease, which was my original claim. From your article: Saturated fats do increase cholesterol levels relative to polyunsaturated fats. You need some fat in your diet, but the overwhelming evidence is that you're better off getting it from unsaturated (plant-based) sources.
      - beagle3 9y ago
        And then again: http://time.com/4291505/when-vegetable-oil-isnt-as-healthy-as-you-think/ http://time.com/4291505/when-vegetable-oil-isnt-as-healthy-a... , links e.g. to http://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i1246 http://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i1246 which has the conclusion quoted below, which is in line with what ggp claimed about whether cholesterol is the cause or just a symptom. """ Available evidence from randomized controlled trials shows that replacement of saturated fat in the diet with linoleic acid effectively lowers serum cholesterol but does not support the hypothesis that this translates to a lower risk of death from coronary heart disease or all causes. Findings from the Minnesota Coronary Experiment add to growing evidence that incomplete publication has contributed to overestimation of the benefits of replacing saturated fat with vegetable oils rich in linoleic acid. """

Saturated fat has a lot of downsides and usually comes along with extra cholesterol. Stick to unsaturated (i.e. vegetable) fats for the sake of your cardiovascular system.

rapind 9y ago

This is under debate. A lot of recent research seems to be leaning the other way on cholesterol.

wskinner 9y ago
Can you cite any of the research? Here is a decent overview, but I would love to learn more. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/cholesterol/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/cholesterol/
- rapind 9y ago
  http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/old-cholesterol-warnings-steeped-in-soft-science-may-be-lifted-in-u-s-1.2953462 http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/old-cholesterol-warnings-steep...
  - cageface 9y ago
    The book cited in this article that so many claim exonerates fats has been thoroughly debunked. https://thescienceofnutrition.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/the-big-fat-surprise-a-critical-review-part-1/ https://thescienceofnutrition.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/the-b...
    - rapind 9y ago
      That's a good read, thanks.
cageface 9y ago
The meat and dairy industries are doing their best to obscure the truth on this issue. Postprandial cholesterol blood levels are a direct function of dietary cholesterol. For example: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-do-we-know-that-cholesterol-causes-heart-disease/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-do-we-know-that-cholest... People want to hear they can eat all the eggs and butter and bacon they want but it’s just not true.

jackhack 9y ago

The thinking on this has completely inverted in the past 5 years. The correlation between dietary consumption of cholesterol and serum (blood level) cholesterol is limited at best. Studies which showed a linear relationship were flawed. Put simply, it is now thought that cholesterol is a plaster over the arterial inflammation caused by sugars. It is a symptom, not a cause of plaques.

cageface 9y ago
This is a snow job by the meat, egg and dairy industries. Don’t believe it. Downvotes should at least try to address the facts in this video. https://youtu.be/vBtfzd43t8o https://youtu.be/vBtfzd43t8o
- sn9 9y ago
  Here you go: https://examine.com/nutrition/is-saturated-fat-bad-for-me/ https://examine.com/nutrition/is-saturated-fat-bad-for-me/ Actual studies linked within.
  - cageface 9y ago
    The conclusion from the very first review cited in your article (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20351774 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20351774): These findings provide evidence that consuming PUFA in place of SFA reduces CHD events in RCTs. i.e. replacing saturated fats with unsaturated fats reduces your risk of cardiovascular disease, which was my original claim. From your article: Saturated fats do increase cholesterol levels relative to polyunsaturated fats. You need some fat in your diet, but the overwhelming evidence is that you're better off getting it from unsaturated (plant-based) sources.
    - beagle3 9y ago
      And then again: http://time.com/4291505/when-vegetable-oil-isnt-as-healthy-as-you-think/ http://time.com/4291505/when-vegetable-oil-isnt-as-healthy-a... , links e.g. to http://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i1246 http://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i1246 which has the conclusion quoted below, which is in line with what ggp claimed about whether cholesterol is the cause or just a symptom. """ Available evidence from randomized controlled trials shows that replacement of saturated fat in the diet with linoleic acid effectively lowers serum cholesterol but does not support the hypothesis that this translates to a lower risk of death from coronary heart disease or all causes. Findings from the Minnesota Coronary Experiment add to growing evidence that incomplete publication has contributed to overestimation of the benefits of replacing saturated fat with vegetable oils rich in linoleic acid. """