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> what I'm usually missing in those is the actual difference in calorie intake... Check out "That Sugar Film," it was on Amazon Prime when I saw it. Highly rec

> what I'm usually missing in those is the actual difference in calorie intake... Check out "That Sugar Film," it was on Amazon Prime when I saw it. Highly recommend. In it, he goes from a zero-sugar diet to a "recommend healthy amount of sugar" (and from "healthy" sources — he is not eating candy) while maintaining the same calorie count and exercise routine. Spoiler: he gains weight and inches and develops a fatty liver.

lozenge 9y ago
He went from zero refined sugar to 200g of sugar a day. The average in America is 125g and nobody would recommend anywhere near either amount. He also only ate packaged foods - presumably no vegetables, rice, pasta etc. It's hard to see how any lessons can be learned from this. And as for the talking heads he chose, well... http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/08/that_sugar_film_science_debunking_links_to_mood_health_fatty_liver_disease.html http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_exa...
- sethammons 9y ago
  Thanks for the link. I had no idea. Up until 2yrs ago, it appears that the WHO recommend up to 50g of sugar per day and recently reduced that to half that. I still think there is a lesson to be learned. If we can assume his calorie intake remained the same (which he claims, but given your link, who knows), we can say that the source of the calories matters. I've met a few people who only subscribe to calories in vs calories out.
  - astura 9y ago
    Added sugar recommendations are always given as "no more than X grams per day." In other words, it's an upper limit and less is always better.
  - lozenge 9y ago
    When I tried to find a recommendation for sugar I mostly found "added sugar should be no more than 5% of your calories". Eg https://www.jamieoliver.com/news-and-features/features/how-much-sugar-is-too-much/ https://www.jamieoliver.com/news-and-features/features/how-m... By keeping his calorie intake the same but replacing all foods with those containing added sugar, he really tipped the scale. I suspect with more calories he might have gained some weight but would feel better and not have that liver issue. I've never seen an honest documentary on nutrition.
astura 9y ago
I didn't know anything about the film so I looked it up. Spoiler: the summary given in this comment is not accurate and the film spouts a bunch of quackery. He didn't eat he "recommend healthy amount of sugar," that would be no more than less than the equivalent amount in a can of soda. He didn't get liver disease. http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/08/that_sugar_film_science_debunking_links_to_mood_health_fatty_liver_disease.html http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_exa...
- sethammons 9y ago
  Just got that link in the other sibling comment. Thanks; quite interesting.

lozenge 9y ago

He went from zero refined sugar to 200g of sugar a day. The average in America is 125g and nobody would recommend anywhere near either amount. He also only ate packaged foods - presumably no vegetables, rice, pasta etc. It's hard to see how any lessons can be learned from this. And as for the talking heads he chose, well... http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/08/that_sugar_film_science_debunking_links_to_mood_health_fatty_liver_disease.html http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_exa...

sethammons 9y ago
Thanks for the link. I had no idea. Up until 2yrs ago, it appears that the WHO recommend up to 50g of sugar per day and recently reduced that to half that. I still think there is a lesson to be learned. If we can assume his calorie intake remained the same (which he claims, but given your link, who knows), we can say that the source of the calories matters. I've met a few people who only subscribe to calories in vs calories out.
- astura 9y ago
  Added sugar recommendations are always given as "no more than X grams per day." In other words, it's an upper limit and less is always better.
- lozenge 9y ago
  When I tried to find a recommendation for sugar I mostly found "added sugar should be no more than 5% of your calories". Eg https://www.jamieoliver.com/news-and-features/features/how-much-sugar-is-too-much/ https://www.jamieoliver.com/news-and-features/features/how-m... By keeping his calorie intake the same but replacing all foods with those containing added sugar, he really tipped the scale. I suspect with more calories he might have gained some weight but would feel better and not have that liver issue. I've never seen an honest documentary on nutrition.

astura 9y ago

I didn't know anything about the film so I looked it up. Spoiler: the summary given in this comment is not accurate and the film spouts a bunch of quackery. He didn't eat he "recommend healthy amount of sugar," that would be no more than less than the equivalent amount in a can of soda. He didn't get liver disease. http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/08/that_sugar_film_science_debunking_links_to_mood_health_fatty_liver_disease.html http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_exa...

sethammons 9y ago
Just got that link in the other sibling comment. Thanks; quite interesting.