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"Mainly that our society is somehow intelligently designed to put men in charge and that it’s not a mix of biology and random happenstance that got us where we
by pasquinelli 9y ago
"Mainly that our society is somehow intelligently designed to put men in charge and that it’s not a mix of biology and random happenstance that got us where we are today."
i don't believe anyone thinks this a or that anyone cares if we're here by accident of history or by intention.
"It also implies that men actually are in charge. Some men may be but the vast majority are not."
of course, and the vast majority of women aren't in charge either, but the topic has been gender roles, not who's in charge. recall that i was questioning the claim that patriarchy is a misnomer because it's bad for men too. the subject at hand is gender roles and gender expectations.
"If incarceration and university enrollment numbers are examined, it might even look like men as a class are the oppressed not the oppressors."
yes, patriarchy is bad for men. and if you look at the number of people murdered by their spouse it also looks pretty oppressive to women. that's the point, patriarchy is oppressive to everyone.
- mpweiher 9y ago> claim that patriarchy is a misnomer because it's bad for men too. Nope. What I wrote that it is perpetuated/enforced by both men and women (arguably by women more than men) and has both negative and positive effects for both men and women.
- pasquinelli 9y agoyeah, that's the one. thanks for clearing up any confusion that i might have caused by not reproducing your post verbatim. anyway, gender roles and gender expectations.
- mpweiher 9y agoYes. "Gender roles exist, and they come with expectations for everyone" is a lot different from "the evil patriarchy is a conspiracy by men to oppress women".