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> Unless you are building a server, it does not matter The average HN user is not the typical desktop/laptop user. I bet we use virtual machines, compilers, te

> Unless you are building a server, it does not matter The average HN user is not the typical desktop/laptop user. I bet we use virtual machines, compilers, technologies like nvme, databases (postgres/mysql)... more often than the typical desktop/laptop user.

quantummkv 9y ago
Yes, we do. But I doubt anyone is using them for production workloads. Development workloads don't continuously push cpu to 100% or even 70% for large periods of time. Development workloads don't make 1000 req/sec on postgres. No one has 10 vm's running at a time on a desktop. These perf issues will only affect the server and cloud providers or some edge cases on the desktop. Everyone else can just apply the patches and go to work.
- discreteevent 9y ago
  You are probably right although C++ compilation can use a fair bit of processor, especially with parallel compilation (e.g. Qt jom). Not sure how frequent system calls are though.
  - kasabali 9y ago
    C/C++ compilations typically read and write a zillion different tiny files and even if they happen totally in memory buffer they'll still do a hell a lot of system calls.
- stevefan1999 9y ago
  I think parallel compilation is going to be hit the most. On my VS2017 with the latest MSVC and C++17, and a moderate C++ project (very few units, only about 100 files and so many constexpr and TMP) with multi core compilation enabled, plus a E5-2660, I have a record of 10% penalty(originally a minute) in build time after clean-and-rebuild. Haven’t tested with IncrediBuild tho, but my paralleled webpack production build seems to offer the same outcome. 30 secs to 36 secs. Both of which is not that really mattered I’d say. I’m using Windows 10 with KB4056892.
johnchristopher 9y ago
> The average HN user is not the typical desktop/laptop user. Maybe so, maybe not. Personnaly I have the hunch that most HN users use the same setup as the typical desktop/laptop users.
- throwawayaway12 9y ago
  They might have the same macbook pro, but it might not be a dedicated email/youtube machine.
  - Broken_Hippo 9y ago
    Maybe, maybe not on their personal computer. Their families' machines are a different story.
entropie 9y ago
Well, iam not. Also i do not host critical production machines, but some web and database server. I wonder how the "i host some stuff on the internets" guy is affected by this stuff.

quantummkv 9y ago

Yes, we do. But I doubt anyone is using them for production workloads. Development workloads don't continuously push cpu to 100% or even 70% for large periods of time. Development workloads don't make 1000 req/sec on postgres. No one has 10 vm's running at a time on a desktop. These perf issues will only affect the server and cloud providers or some edge cases on the desktop. Everyone else can just apply the patches and go to work.

discreteevent 9y ago
You are probably right although C++ compilation can use a fair bit of processor, especially with parallel compilation (e.g. Qt jom). Not sure how frequent system calls are though.
- kasabali 9y ago
  C/C++ compilations typically read and write a zillion different tiny files and even if they happen totally in memory buffer they'll still do a hell a lot of system calls.
stevefan1999 9y ago
I think parallel compilation is going to be hit the most. On my VS2017 with the latest MSVC and C++17, and a moderate C++ project (very few units, only about 100 files and so many constexpr and TMP) with multi core compilation enabled, plus a E5-2660, I have a record of 10% penalty(originally a minute) in build time after clean-and-rebuild. Haven’t tested with IncrediBuild tho, but my paralleled webpack production build seems to offer the same outcome. 30 secs to 36 secs. Both of which is not that really mattered I’d say. I’m using Windows 10 with KB4056892.

johnchristopher 9y ago

> The average HN user is not the typical desktop/laptop user. Maybe so, maybe not. Personnaly I have the hunch that most HN users use the same setup as the typical desktop/laptop users.

throwawayaway12 9y ago
They might have the same macbook pro, but it might not be a dedicated email/youtube machine.
- Broken_Hippo 9y ago
  Maybe, maybe not on their personal computer. Their families' machines are a different story.

entropie 9y ago

Well, iam not. Also i do not host critical production machines, but some web and database server. I wonder how the "i host some stuff on the internets" guy is affected by this stuff.