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Tesla Model 3: Review

27 points by josephscott 9y ago

dharmon 9y ago
_sigh_ Several suspicious paragraphs spent claiming that they have no dog in the TSLA race, followed by yet another fanboy review. The car had outside air blowing on your leg? Dude, if I bought a Kia with that issue I would promptly return it. It's so weird how he claims things are perfect then overexplains why flaws are not-really-flaws. Keep waiting if you want a real objective review.
fullshark 9y ago
It’s still too expensive
- philmcc 9y ago
  It's actually cheaper to own than a Honda Civic. These guys did a fairly solid breakdown of the ownership costs over 5 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR_ub5eL9n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR_ub5eL9n0
  - fullshark 9y ago
    The review model in OP is 55k not 35k
  - dogma1138 9y ago
    No it’s not, the problem with Tesla is repairs or the lack there of pretty much anything above cosmetic damage gets a write off as total loss by the insurance companies. Tesla should allow for proper repair of damages if it won’t, the insurance costs will sky rocket and the environmental impact is also there. On the other hand people have been buying written off Tesla’s with very little actual damage and repairing them so you get a model S for like 10,000 dollars.
mberning 9y ago
My god I dislike Alex Roy. This is a guy that made a name for himself doing speed runs cross country putting many innocent people at risk. Somehow he has bootstrapped that into having “the first serious review” of the model 3? Yeah right. Aside from that, many people have done better reviews of the model 3 in print and on YouTube. Doug DeMuro had a good one which I watched recently.
- boxcardavin 9y ago
  Alex Roy is the most unlikable car reviewer out there, but somehow he keeps in the same circle as Demuro, Farrah, and (kinda) Harris. His reviews suffer because of his weird ego and self consciousness.
- philmcc 9y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te6VqldjTT8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te6VqldjTT8 Agreed, it's great.
- frik 9y ago
  Thanks for flagging the article /s Actually this Tesla 3 review article, is pretty well written and seems more objective than most other. It lists a lot of pros and cons. Have you even read it?? Apparently paid corporate drones and stock holders heavily comment & moderate here. Is listing a fair articulated con not compatible with your world view? The Tesla S features the manual knobs of the a Mercedes S class, the reviewer mentioned as con that the Tesla 3 has an inferior knob to control the lane-assistant/autopilot and a less ideal (bad UI) smaller touch screen. Shame on you "commenters" here, so disgusting!
amirmasoudabdol 9y ago
“(D” lettrine! :/
rsanheim 9y ago
Having a 15 inch touch screen set off to the right as your main user interface in a _car_ is insane. This is taking the stupidity of touch-only volume controls to the next level. I don't care how good the autopilot is, if I can't control everything essential via tactile based controls while keeping my eyes on the road, your design has failed.
- dreamcompiler 9y ago
  I agree, but Tesla seems to have sweated the human factors way more than any other car company. When I test-drove a Model S, I expected the screen to suck. But I didn't hate it. Somehow it just works. It's difficult to explain.
  - pvinis 9y ago
    When I test-drove the Model S, the screen felt like I had to use a 3 year old Android tablet to do things like volume change or AC. I didn't like it. It felt slow to me. I don't mind the non-tactile-ness of it, it just felt old and slow. Definitely not what I was expecting.
    - cynix 9y ago
      That's because you should be using the physical scroll wheels on the steering wheel for tasks that you're likely to perform while driving, such as changing music volume or AC temperature, but you probably didn't get the chance to program them to your liking during a short test drive.
      - pvinis 9y ago
        That makes sense. I'm sure it gets better with some personalization, but still, let's say the navigation felt like an old version of Google Earth running on an old tablet. Very cool and definitely very pretty though.
rocky1138 9y ago
This is a horrible review. First he claims his competitors are whores (his words, not mine) but then doesn't back up his review with any actual information. Just look at this review of the navigation system: "Navigation/GPS: Wonderful. In conjunction with Tesla's excellent voice control, it's a revelation. Other manufacturers should weep." That's it. That's the whole review. It doesn't tell us anything about why it's a revelation or why other manufacturers should weep.
3stripe 9y ago
Interesting that he mentions the Model T - wonder how the prices compares with a Model 3 when adjusted for inflation? Edit: 1913 Model T runabout was $525 (taking the listed price 10 years after Ford’s inception as Tesla is now a similar age). Adjusted for inflation that is now approx $13,840 according to https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl So at least 3 x cheaper than the $35,000-55,000 price of a Model 3. (Disclaimer: calculated from bed during 4am insomnia)
- hackeraccount 9y ago
  Sure but that's only calculating for inflation. There's also been real growth in income over the time period.

27 points by josephscott 9y ago

_sigh_ Several suspicious paragraphs spent claiming that they have no dog in the TSLA race, followed by yet another fanboy review. The car had outside air blowing on your leg? Dude, if I bought a Kia with that issue I would promptly return it. It's so weird how he claims things are perfect then overexplains why flaws are not-really-flaws. Keep waiting if you want a real objective review.

fullshark 9y ago

It’s still too expensive

philmcc 9y ago
It's actually cheaper to own than a Honda Civic. These guys did a fairly solid breakdown of the ownership costs over 5 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR_ub5eL9n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR_ub5eL9n0
- fullshark 9y ago
  The review model in OP is 55k not 35k
- dogma1138 9y ago
  No it’s not, the problem with Tesla is repairs or the lack there of pretty much anything above cosmetic damage gets a write off as total loss by the insurance companies. Tesla should allow for proper repair of damages if it won’t, the insurance costs will sky rocket and the environmental impact is also there. On the other hand people have been buying written off Tesla’s with very little actual damage and repairing them so you get a model S for like 10,000 dollars.

mberning 9y ago

My god I dislike Alex Roy. This is a guy that made a name for himself doing speed runs cross country putting many innocent people at risk. Somehow he has bootstrapped that into having “the first serious review” of the model 3? Yeah right. Aside from that, many people have done better reviews of the model 3 in print and on YouTube. Doug DeMuro had a good one which I watched recently.

boxcardavin 9y ago
Alex Roy is the most unlikable car reviewer out there, but somehow he keeps in the same circle as Demuro, Farrah, and (kinda) Harris. His reviews suffer because of his weird ego and self consciousness.
philmcc 9y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te6VqldjTT8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te6VqldjTT8 Agreed, it's great.
frik 9y ago
Thanks for flagging the article /s Actually this Tesla 3 review article, is pretty well written and seems more objective than most other. It lists a lot of pros and cons. Have you even read it?? Apparently paid corporate drones and stock holders heavily comment & moderate here. Is listing a fair articulated con not compatible with your world view? The Tesla S features the manual knobs of the a Mercedes S class, the reviewer mentioned as con that the Tesla 3 has an inferior knob to control the lane-assistant/autopilot and a less ideal (bad UI) smaller touch screen. Shame on you "commenters" here, so disgusting!

amirmasoudabdol 9y ago

“(D” lettrine! :/

rsanheim 9y ago

Having a 15 inch touch screen set off to the right as your main user interface in a _car_ is insane. This is taking the stupidity of touch-only volume controls to the next level. I don't care how good the autopilot is, if I can't control everything essential via tactile based controls while keeping my eyes on the road, your design has failed.

dreamcompiler 9y ago
I agree, but Tesla seems to have sweated the human factors way more than any other car company. When I test-drove a Model S, I expected the screen to suck. But I didn't hate it. Somehow it just works. It's difficult to explain.
- pvinis 9y ago
  When I test-drove the Model S, the screen felt like I had to use a 3 year old Android tablet to do things like volume change or AC. I didn't like it. It felt slow to me. I don't mind the non-tactile-ness of it, it just felt old and slow. Definitely not what I was expecting.
  - cynix 9y ago
    That's because you should be using the physical scroll wheels on the steering wheel for tasks that you're likely to perform while driving, such as changing music volume or AC temperature, but you probably didn't get the chance to program them to your liking during a short test drive.
    - pvinis 9y ago
      That makes sense. I'm sure it gets better with some personalization, but still, let's say the navigation felt like an old version of Google Earth running on an old tablet. Very cool and definitely very pretty though.

rocky1138 9y ago

This is a horrible review. First he claims his competitors are whores (his words, not mine) but then doesn't back up his review with any actual information. Just look at this review of the navigation system: "Navigation/GPS: Wonderful. In conjunction with Tesla's excellent voice control, it's a revelation. Other manufacturers should weep." That's it. That's the whole review. It doesn't tell us anything about why it's a revelation or why other manufacturers should weep.

3stripe 9y ago

Interesting that he mentions the Model T - wonder how the prices compares with a Model 3 when adjusted for inflation? Edit: 1913 Model T runabout was $525 (taking the listed price 10 years after Ford’s inception as Tesla is now a similar age). Adjusted for inflation that is now approx $13,840 according to https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl So at least 3 x cheaper than the $35,000-55,000 price of a Model 3. (Disclaimer: calculated from bed during 4am insomnia)

hackeraccount 9y ago
Sure but that's only calculating for inflation. There's also been real growth in income over the time period.