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Sounds questionable. Many substances with high abuse potential are used by medicine, and alcohol has no medical benefits that I know of but creates loads of pro
by gt_ 9y ago
Sounds questionable. Many substances with high abuse potential are used by medicine, and alcohol has no medical benefits that I know of but creates loads of problems everywhere I look. I don’t feel like I’m making any non-obvious points.
- ttul 9y agoYou obviously have never done mushrooms. You can’t abuse mushrooms. They are non addictive and self limiting.
- gt_ 9y agoMaybe you meant to reply to the parent of my comment?
- heavenlyblue 9y agoYou can abuse mushrooms if you take them in lower dosages. This keeps the antidepressant effect, but doesn't allow you to trip. I had done this - nothing bad happened to me, but not suggesting to try this at home. The point still stands though: please don't misinform people around you since that just reinforces the negative agenda around theses substances.
- Scalestein 9y agoCurious as someone who has considered micro dosing - what would you say the effects of taking the lower dosages repeatedly were that would put it in the 'abuse' category?
- heavenlyblue 9y agoIt’s the general anti-depressant effect. Over a course of a few days you get used to the fact that your mood is more swingy - that would be “your ups are higher and the downs are lower”. Now you get used to it, and returning to a less emotional state of mind would be similar to stopping “wake and bake’ing” - there’s no physical dependence, but there’s a routine of keeping yourself more moody every day.
- tzakrajs 9y agoI noticed no effect from microdosing mushrooms (0.5g per day for a few days) but I don't suffer from depression. How long did microdosing take to make a meaningful effect?
- heavenlyblue 9y agoI have noticed being more emotional in general (ups and higher, downs are lower). But in my case I would be dosing 0.5g several times a day over the course of three days; knowing that the effect keeps for around 3 hours at +1H. On the other hand at that point of time I did suffer from depression and they would kick me out of the relatively low-peak baseline. I have repeated this a few times.
- blobwalker 9y agoA low baseline is common in bipolar disorder, too. It was (and to a lesser but unfortunate degree, still is) very commonly misdiagnosed as depression because of this. It reacts quite differently to drugs than depression; many anti-depressants pose a high suicide risk when taken by bipolar individuals. While the overall effect during depressive periods (which can last years) in bipolar seems the same, it seems to have a different underlying cause. Normally you wouldn’t get cycling that fast, but AFAIK, there is even less research so far about how psilocybin affects bipolar disorder. I’m not trying to diagnose anyone... just something to think about for anyone who thinks they might be suffering from depression. I think I was misdiagnosed for many years, leading to decades of ineffective treatments.
- heavenlyblue 9y agoBy the way, certain combinations tend to highlight the fact that you have indeed dosed and it’s not placebo: try making a coffee with the same 0.5g dosage and you’d see that the stimulating effect of the coffee is way more expressed at +1H.
- ttul 9y agoThis is very poorly understood.
- airza 9y agoWhat is the abusive component of the regimen you're describing?
- heavenlyblue 9y agoThe abusive component is where you forget that life isn’t as impressive as it is on shrooms. It gets harder to return to life full of paler colours (or let’s say - you start reacting to the fact, that compared to being a bit high, life isn’t as impressive). Also don’t forget that there’s next to no studies about long-term (let’s say: microdosing for a month) effect of shrooms.