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The best way is not to travel with anything that is not needed. Use cloud services and a disposable OS. The best way to play their (CBP) game is not to play.

The best way is not to travel with anything that is not needed. Use cloud services and a disposable OS. The best way to play their (CBP) game is not to play. Don’t have anything available for them.

username223 9y ago
This seems like a no-brainer. If you don't want CBP digging through your data, it's not hard to backup and wipe your phone before a trip. Or just buy a cheap burner for travel purposes.
nabeards 9y ago
Is there any way to quickly wipe and restore a full macOS? or other OS for that matter? As someone who travels, well, all the time, it seems a massive amount of overhead at the moment. If everything is in the cloud, that means I have to be sure to have fast, reliable internet at my destination (which is definitely not always the case). And any way I can think of to securely travel with a copy of my data is just the same problem: the CBP can request I unlock the other device. Ideally, we just wouldn't be able to be compelled to unlock our data, without the high probability of being forced to hand over the device because of our refusal. How is this not a violation of the Fourth Amendment? It's frustrating in the least.
- cypherpunks01 9y ago
  Chrome is the only OS that makes this ridiculously easy, I think..
  - gcb0 9y ago
    only because chromeos is so crippled. this is like suggesting a kids toy in the shape of a power tool is easier to repair than a proper power tool. while true, you can't do the same tasks with the kids toy.
grecy 9y ago
While I have never had a major problem, it certainly raises a LOT of eyebrows when I say I don't have a phone. Most Officers simply don't believe me, and quite a few embassies had no idea how they would issue me a visa without a phone number on the application form.
- sigmaprimus 9y ago
  I have an old Motorola "dumb" phone, but what I want to know is if I am asked "Do you have a Gmail/Facebook etc..account" I am required to tell the truth, am I also obligated to provide the password to access it regardless of whether or not I am carrying a device to access it?
  - tssva 9y ago
    I don't know if you must answer the question or provide a password, but I do know that lying to a federal agent is a crime that can land you in jail for up to 5 years.
    - grecy 9y ago
      That's an interesting question. If I cross into the US with nothing digital at all (no phone, camera, laptop, etc.) do I have to provide logins and passwords to all my online accounts? That would be very scary if indeed true.
    - sigmaprimus 9y ago
      It's really scary, say the wrong thing to a border agent and you can end up in prison, or banned from entry for life. I don't travel to the US often and unfortunately since 911, I am even less inclined to travel there due to the security measures imposed afterwards...does that mean the terrorists won?
gcb0 9y ago
or not to travel to countries with such policies, such as the usa or saudi Arabia.

The best way is not to travel with anything that is not needed. Use cloud services and a disposable OS. The best way to play their (CBP) game is not to play. Don’t have anything available for them.

username223 9y ago

This seems like a no-brainer. If you don't want CBP digging through your data, it's not hard to backup and wipe your phone before a trip. Or just buy a cheap burner for travel purposes.

nabeards 9y ago

Is there any way to quickly wipe and restore a full macOS? or other OS for that matter? As someone who travels, well, all the time, it seems a massive amount of overhead at the moment. If everything is in the cloud, that means I have to be sure to have fast, reliable internet at my destination (which is definitely not always the case). And any way I can think of to securely travel with a copy of my data is just the same problem: the CBP can request I unlock the other device. Ideally, we just wouldn't be able to be compelled to unlock our data, without the high probability of being forced to hand over the device because of our refusal. How is this not a violation of the Fourth Amendment? It's frustrating in the least.

cypherpunks01 9y ago
Chrome is the only OS that makes this ridiculously easy, I think..
- gcb0 9y ago
  only because chromeos is so crippled. this is like suggesting a kids toy in the shape of a power tool is easier to repair than a proper power tool. while true, you can't do the same tasks with the kids toy.

grecy 9y ago

While I have never had a major problem, it certainly raises a LOT of eyebrows when I say I don't have a phone. Most Officers simply don't believe me, and quite a few embassies had no idea how they would issue me a visa without a phone number on the application form.

sigmaprimus 9y ago
I have an old Motorola "dumb" phone, but what I want to know is if I am asked "Do you have a Gmail/Facebook etc..account" I am required to tell the truth, am I also obligated to provide the password to access it regardless of whether or not I am carrying a device to access it?
- tssva 9y ago
  I don't know if you must answer the question or provide a password, but I do know that lying to a federal agent is a crime that can land you in jail for up to 5 years.
  - grecy 9y ago
    That's an interesting question. If I cross into the US with nothing digital at all (no phone, camera, laptop, etc.) do I have to provide logins and passwords to all my online accounts? That would be very scary if indeed true.
  - sigmaprimus 9y ago
    It's really scary, say the wrong thing to a border agent and you can end up in prison, or banned from entry for life. I don't travel to the US often and unfortunately since 911, I am even less inclined to travel there due to the security measures imposed afterwards...does that mean the terrorists won?

gcb0 9y ago

or not to travel to countries with such policies, such as the usa or saudi Arabia.