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No one seems to have told the other BSDs, either.

by blattimwind 9y ago

kuschku 9y ago
FreeBSD was told in December, which is still a realistic timeline.
- JdeBP 9y ago
  Late December, i.e. a week or so before the cat actually got let out of the bag, and probably around a fortnight's notice until the originally planned coördinated announcement date. * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16074531 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16074531 That is hardly enough time, considering that it is likely a holiday period for most of the people concerned, to prepare what needed to be prepared. Google and Intel gave themselves six months, in contrast, and they gave Ubuntu since November 2017. I still haven't nailed down how much advanced notice Matthew Dillion, author of DragonFly BSD, was given; although his apparent level of preparedness with patches on 2018-01-05 can be attributed to the fact that he actually talked publicly about the problem in April 2017, months before Google Project Zero secretly reported it to processor manufacturers in June 2017 in the first place. * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16084641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16084641
  - kuschku 9y ago
    > That is hardly enough time, considering that it is likely a holiday period for most of the people concerned, to prepare what needed to be prepared. Google and Intel gave themselves six months, in contrast, and they gave Ubuntu since November 2017. Correct, but it’s significantly better than OpenBSD’s timeline (which learnt about it from the media). Mitigation for Meltdown is possible within of a week, or two. It requires working through the night, but it’s possible. Mitigation after it’s in the media is a whole different situation.
    - JdeBP 9y ago
      No, it is not significantly better. Contrasted with the months that the likes of Microsoft, Ubuntu, and (going by what Paolo Bonzini has already said on Hacker News) RedHat got, FreeBSD and OpenBSD were in practical terms in the same boat. The difference of a week, when that week is Christmastide, is insignificant when put alongside those.

No one seems to have told the other BSDs, either.

kuschku 9y ago

FreeBSD was told in December, which is still a realistic timeline.

JdeBP 9y ago
Late December, i.e. a week or so before the cat actually got let out of the bag, and probably around a fortnight's notice until the originally planned coördinated announcement date. * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16074531 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16074531 That is hardly enough time, considering that it is likely a holiday period for most of the people concerned, to prepare what needed to be prepared. Google and Intel gave themselves six months, in contrast, and they gave Ubuntu since November 2017. I still haven't nailed down how much advanced notice Matthew Dillion, author of DragonFly BSD, was given; although his apparent level of preparedness with patches on 2018-01-05 can be attributed to the fact that he actually talked publicly about the problem in April 2017, months before Google Project Zero secretly reported it to processor manufacturers in June 2017 in the first place. * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16084641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16084641
- kuschku 9y ago
  > That is hardly enough time, considering that it is likely a holiday period for most of the people concerned, to prepare what needed to be prepared. Google and Intel gave themselves six months, in contrast, and they gave Ubuntu since November 2017. Correct, but it’s significantly better than OpenBSD’s timeline (which learnt about it from the media). Mitigation for Meltdown is possible within of a week, or two. It requires working through the night, but it’s possible. Mitigation after it’s in the media is a whole different situation.
  - JdeBP 9y ago
    No, it is not significantly better. Contrasted with the months that the likes of Microsoft, Ubuntu, and (going by what Paolo Bonzini has already said on Hacker News) RedHat got, FreeBSD and OpenBSD were in practical terms in the same boat. The difference of a week, when that week is Christmastide, is insignificant when put alongside those.