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It's weird how you cite Jack Davidson's website, then go to Wikipedia for information on Cherri Pancake. I checked her website and it turns out she has research
by daveFNbuck 9y ago
It's weird how you cite Jack Davidson's website, then go to Wikipedia for information on Cherri Pancake. I checked her website and it turns out she has research interests too. Even just looking at the Wikipedia article you cited, you stop right before it goes on to discusss how she spent over 3 decades doing computer science, 2 of them while active within the ACM.
Do you really think this election is a qualified man vs an unqualified woman because the man has research interests and the woman did other things before becoming a computer scientist?
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- michaelmior 9y agoI personally found Dr. Pancake's background fascinating although I agree what was posted is not terribly relevant to the job.
- daveFNbuck 9y agoI'm not sure it's irrelevant. The job is president, not top CS nerd.
- vonmoltke 9y agoI think the issue is that some people, such as muckraker098, think that ACM president should be top CS nerd.
- muckraker098 9y agoAn academic/professional association exists to advance the interests of its members. Normally, at minimum, the president of such an association would hold the top degree in the relevant field. The President of the American Bar Association has a JD. The President of the American Medical Association has an MD, the President of the American Chemical Society has a PhD in Chemistry. It is normal for an association to elect someone at the top of their field academically to represent them. Obviously this person must have other skills as well to be an effective leader. If you derisively refer to someone with a PhD in CS to be a "CS Nerd", don't join the ACM. The problem we have here is that the leadership of the ACM should be representing and advocating for the membership. The current leadership sees the membership as the problem. If you dare to talk about this, you get censored.
- daveFNbuck 9y agoThere are degrees beyond JD and MD for the legal and medical fields. JD and MD are just the minimum degrees necessary to practice in those fields. There is no such minimum degree for computing, and computing is a new enough field that many schools didn't even offer it as a major until recently. Of course, Dr. Pancake has a PhD in a relevant field so your objection doesn't even apply to the candidates you listed.
- michaelmior 9y agoAgreed. My point was that the experience listed is not directly related. But it's certainly true that significant experience elsewhere can provide useful perspective.