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You might be talking about the following article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/russia-reverts-paper-nsa-leaks https://www.theguardian.com/worl

by madez 9y ago

You might be talking about the following article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/russia-reverts-paper-nsa-leaks https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/russia-reverts... Even in Germany high officials hinted at using mechanical typewriters: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/15/germany-typewriters-espionage-nsa-spying-surveillance https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/15/germany-typewr... Luckily, the politicians in Germany and Europe wake up. They want to build up European chip and hardware facilities to have the full chain in Europe. Also they plan to demand certification and customer visible labels. Finally! https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Prozessor-Luecken-Meltdown-und-Spectre-De-Maiziere-will-eigene-Schluesseltechnologien-staerken-3935037.html https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Prozessor-Luecken-Me...

danieldk 9y ago
Luckily, the politicians in Germany and Europe wake up. They want to build up European chip and hardware facilities to have the full chain in Europe. Also they plan to demand certification and customer visible labels. Finally! This is the same Thomas de Maizière that backed a law that allows German law enforcement agencies to order companies to insert back doors in their products: https://boingboing.net/2017/12/05/thomas-de-maiziere.html https://boingboing.net/2017/12/05/thomas-de-maiziere.html
zby 9y ago
"Luckily, the politicians in Germany and Europe wake up. They want to build up European chip and hardware facilities to have the full chain in Europe. Also they plan to demand certification and customer visible labels. Finally!" So far similar efforts by EU were rather underwhelming - but this one is probably the most important. I believe EU is the only global actor that can achieve the goal of creating reliable hardware and software. The still decentralized nature of EU means that no partner can afford any unilateral action (like backdoors) - and a conspiracy on the level of whole EU is impossible. And of course it needs to be Open Source.
indymike 9y ago
How does geopolitical location make hardware and software secure? Hint: it does not. It is clear there is demand at some level for secure computation and patching current hardware and software is not going to get the job done. Certification and labels imply we know how to do something we'll enough to say this is the right way. It is clear that we do not, so certification of hardware is most likely to just ensure every chip has the same exact problems.

by madez 9y ago

danieldk 9y ago

Luckily, the politicians in Germany and Europe wake up. They want to build up European chip and hardware facilities to have the full chain in Europe. Also they plan to demand certification and customer visible labels. Finally! This is the same Thomas de Maizière that backed a law that allows German law enforcement agencies to order companies to insert back doors in their products: https://boingboing.net/2017/12/05/thomas-de-maiziere.html https://boingboing.net/2017/12/05/thomas-de-maiziere.html

zby 9y ago

"Luckily, the politicians in Germany and Europe wake up. They want to build up European chip and hardware facilities to have the full chain in Europe. Also they plan to demand certification and customer visible labels. Finally!" So far similar efforts by EU were rather underwhelming - but this one is probably the most important. I believe EU is the only global actor that can achieve the goal of creating reliable hardware and software. The still decentralized nature of EU means that no partner can afford any unilateral action (like backdoors) - and a conspiracy on the level of whole EU is impossible. And of course it needs to be Open Source.

indymike 9y ago

How does geopolitical location make hardware and software secure? Hint: it does not. It is clear there is demand at some level for secure computation and patching current hardware and software is not going to get the job done. Certification and labels imply we know how to do something we'll enough to say this is the right way. It is clear that we do not, so certification of hardware is most likely to just ensure every chip has the same exact problems.