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by barrkel 9y ago
No light will come from discussion of this article.
- vorotato 9y agomaybe so
- belorn 9y agoI could not disagree more. In a world where great injustice have happened, the solution is rarely to abandon the legal system in order to right the wrongs. Too much collateral damage. The article encourage us to discuss how to right the wrongs without abandoning the legal system. That would be a nice discussion to have on HN.
- vorotato 9y agoI think most people who supported #MeToo or #BelieveAllWomen do not believe in abandoning the legal system, though they may be discussing adjusting the legal system such that we actually see more convictions of rapists, assaulters, etc where the evidence succeeds in proving the accused party guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.
- belorn 9y agoIf we agree to that then I think we can also agree that adjusting the legal system such that we actually see more convictions is also something which practically everyone would want. There is few crimes in any nation that has more than a single digit conviction rate. To give an example, Sweden has dedicated police units for sexual violence crime, dedicated unit of prosecutors for it, and a legal system where if there is evidence proving the accused party is guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt then the accused will get jail time. It still only has 8% clearing rate, which to be fair is higher than in the US, but still where the wast wast majority fails because a lack of any evidence beyond the testimony of the accuser and accused. By a coincident, assault also has the exact same 8% clearing rate (but with a higher occurrence rate). The question is how to get the clearing rate anything near in which people will start to feel that the guilty will be punished.