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...And expect that collapse to be sudden (relatively speaking) and take a baffled majority by surprise. Then expect conflict, trending more and more to desperat

...And expect that collapse to be sudden (relatively speaking) and take a baffled majority by surprise. Then expect conflict, trending more and more to desperation and violence.

crispinb 9y ago
A harbinger: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/jan/04/bangladesh-climate-refugees-john-vidal-photo-essay https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/jan/04/b... There are no waves of violence washing towards developed nations from Bangladesh. But it's going to come at some stage, from some similar quarter, and will hardly be unjustified. They are paying the price for 'our' insatiable greed.
- candiodari 9y ago
  That article, sorry, is total bullshit. The rain season flooding large areas is neither new, nor strange. The same happens in a third of India, and large parts of Africa and I'm sure you can find the same phenomenon in areas around the equator in the Americas as well. Mass flooding during the wet season, with the "Monsoon" rains is the most predictable, normal and obvious thing in the world. But western audiences mostly don't know that. Monsoon rains are so bad that without protection from the rain, people can die from just how much water there is in the athmosphere. (If it's raining, that means the water in the atmosphere is more than 100%. If it's more than 37 degrees out and it's raining, that means there's more than 100% water inside your windpipe and inside your lungs. That means it's equally raining inside your lungs, and this can cause drowning. So you can't walk around in a Monsoon. That's how bad it can be. Luckily, because that's common knowledge it's not very common) The reason for most of the phenomena in the article is simply because in Bangladesh there is a general movement of people from areas like those that flood. These areas get abandoned, because the children can make more money in the cities and vastly prefer that over what their "traditional way of living" can offer. Then these areas get abandoned by everyone out of necessity, and swallowed by nature. Flooding is something that I'm sure is the "drop that makes the bucket overflow" for many young people, but it is not the cause of what's happening. And especially, rising sea levels do not make any difference here. If anything, economic inequality in Bangladesh is to blame.

...And expect that collapse to be sudden (relatively speaking) and take a baffled majority by surprise. Then expect conflict, trending more and more to desperation and violence.

crispinb 9y ago

A harbinger: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/jan/04/bangladesh-climate-refugees-john-vidal-photo-essay https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/jan/04/b... There are no waves of violence washing towards developed nations from Bangladesh. But it's going to come at some stage, from some similar quarter, and will hardly be unjustified. They are paying the price for 'our' insatiable greed.

candiodari 9y ago
That article, sorry, is total bullshit. The rain season flooding large areas is neither new, nor strange. The same happens in a third of India, and large parts of Africa and I'm sure you can find the same phenomenon in areas around the equator in the Americas as well. Mass flooding during the wet season, with the "Monsoon" rains is the most predictable, normal and obvious thing in the world. But western audiences mostly don't know that. Monsoon rains are so bad that without protection from the rain, people can die from just how much water there is in the athmosphere. (If it's raining, that means the water in the atmosphere is more than 100%. If it's more than 37 degrees out and it's raining, that means there's more than 100% water inside your windpipe and inside your lungs. That means it's equally raining inside your lungs, and this can cause drowning. So you can't walk around in a Monsoon. That's how bad it can be. Luckily, because that's common knowledge it's not very common) The reason for most of the phenomena in the article is simply because in Bangladesh there is a general movement of people from areas like those that flood. These areas get abandoned, because the children can make more money in the cities and vastly prefer that over what their "traditional way of living" can offer. Then these areas get abandoned by everyone out of necessity, and swallowed by nature. Flooding is something that I'm sure is the "drop that makes the bucket overflow" for many young people, but it is not the cause of what's happening. And especially, rising sea levels do not make any difference here. If anything, economic inequality in Bangladesh is to blame.