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What exactly did he or Uber do that is morally reprehensible? To me "morally reprehensible" implies something quite extreme, like, say, genocide, callous viole

by Helmet 9y ago

What exactly did he or Uber do that is morally reprehensible? To me "morally reprehensible" implies something quite extreme, like, say, genocide, callous violent crime, rape, etc.

mplewis 9y ago
They illegally obtained medical records of a rape victim. If that's not morally reprehensible, I don't know where you draw the line.
atonse 9y ago
That's a pretty high bar. So then every single thing that pretty much every single monopolist has done is totally fine since, you know, it wasn't genocide? Uber did lots of, if not ethically grey, completely unethical (and unlawful) things. Least of which includes tracking regulators and government inspectors, and also surveillance on their users and celebrities based on the rides they'd take. That's not even counting all the bro culture and sexual harassment that seems to have been rampant. It does come from the top. A lot of those people that were fired, were hired by Kalanick. Nobody's shedding a tear for a jerk like Kalanick, especially not after his multi-billion dollar payout. He'll be just fine. In fact, by any stretch of it, he's being HANDSOMELY rewarded for his behavior. He has simply no reason to change.
- Helmet 9y ago
  > So then every single thing that pretty much every single monopolist has done is totally fine since, you know, it wasn't genocide? What? I didn't say that it was "fine". I'm just trying to get a handle on the scope here. When I think of things that are morally reprehensible, I think of the things I mentioned in my post. Clearly, I don't think Uber is there, so I disagree with the notion that they acted in a "morally reprehensible" way. Do I think that they behaved unethically, even criminally so? Yes, I think that you can make a strong case for that. Maybe I'm making a semantic argument? If so, I think I'm getting weary of our constant 24/7 media stream of outrage, and for that I apologize since that's neither here nor there...

by Helmet 9y ago

What exactly did he or Uber do that is morally reprehensible? To me "morally reprehensible" implies something quite extreme, like, say, genocide, callous violent crime, rape, etc.

mplewis 9y ago

They illegally obtained medical records of a rape victim. If that's not morally reprehensible, I don't know where you draw the line.

atonse 9y ago

That's a pretty high bar. So then every single thing that pretty much every single monopolist has done is totally fine since, you know, it wasn't genocide? Uber did lots of, if not ethically grey, completely unethical (and unlawful) things. Least of which includes tracking regulators and government inspectors, and also surveillance on their users and celebrities based on the rides they'd take. That's not even counting all the bro culture and sexual harassment that seems to have been rampant. It does come from the top. A lot of those people that were fired, were hired by Kalanick. Nobody's shedding a tear for a jerk like Kalanick, especially not after his multi-billion dollar payout. He'll be just fine. In fact, by any stretch of it, he's being HANDSOMELY rewarded for his behavior. He has simply no reason to change.

Helmet 9y ago
> So then every single thing that pretty much every single monopolist has done is totally fine since, you know, it wasn't genocide? What? I didn't say that it was "fine". I'm just trying to get a handle on the scope here. When I think of things that are morally reprehensible, I think of the things I mentioned in my post. Clearly, I don't think Uber is there, so I disagree with the notion that they acted in a "morally reprehensible" way. Do I think that they behaved unethically, even criminally so? Yes, I think that you can make a strong case for that. Maybe I'm making a semantic argument? If so, I think I'm getting weary of our constant 24/7 media stream of outrage, and for that I apologize since that's neither here nor there...