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It's good to make kids getting used to being under constant surveillance, keeps them from acting up against it when the government introduces it for everyone wh

It's good to make kids getting used to being under constant surveillance, keeps them from acting up against it when the government introduces it for everyone when they are adults. /s

lifeisstillgood 9y ago
Actually it is good. They are already under constant surveillance - just not from someone with their best interests at heart. Actually this idea is far lower down my priority tree than say working out how to monitor how much TV we watch, how much time on social media (or HN) - and then to compare to things we would prefer to do like walking the dog or playing board games. Just inventorying our lives will be a huge step towards getting conscious control over the mass distraction world we live in. Further ranting: No one thinks having a comprehensive view on my monetary spend is a bad idea - websites, apps and even EU directives are trying to help. but there is nought for my time spend - apart from stupid things like please enter how much time you just spent on an activity. So as a starting list i want - To know what the TV was showing when. - What netflix was showing on what device - what youtube was showing - for my phone - what podcasts, what youtube etc, - same for social media (HN counts for me) - The Nintendo Switch kinda sorta gets it - there is a parent app that lets one set time limits on daily usage. but hahahahha it assumes you only have one child (per switch) - then use my GPS tag to show where was I and can I correspond that with an activity - gym, commute, walking across fields - I am fairly sure there is value in Alexa / similar voice monitoring working out what is happening in the house (it takes you on average 34 minutes from the first "get dressed for school" till the door finally bangs) Don't get me started on MOOPs And none of which has an API i know about. All because they don't want me to stop watching.
- schlowmo 9y ago
  > "just not from someone with their best interests at hear" Oh dear...I really wish your kids have the best parents in the world. I really do, my parents probably believed that too, but unfortunately they were not - surprise! But I'm really happy that I was born at least two decades too early for that shit. I hope kids can still outsmart their parents today. If not, we've lost.
  - SimonPStevens 9y ago
    I think you should cut the guy some slack here. He is talking about working to keep his kids safe online. That sounds like responsible parenting to me. The internet is full of crazy awful stuff, and yeah sure I get that at some point you have to let them be independent and trust them, but we don't know how old his kids are, at younger ages there is certainly some protection required. And as they grow up and learn you can gradually give then more trust and freedom.

It's good to make kids getting used to being under constant surveillance, keeps them from acting up against it when the government introduces it for everyone when they are adults. /s

lifeisstillgood 9y ago

Actually it is good. They are already under constant surveillance - just not from someone with their best interests at heart. Actually this idea is far lower down my priority tree than say working out how to monitor how much TV we watch, how much time on social media (or HN) - and then to compare to things we would prefer to do like walking the dog or playing board games. Just inventorying our lives will be a huge step towards getting conscious control over the mass distraction world we live in. Further ranting: No one thinks having a comprehensive view on my monetary spend is a bad idea - websites, apps and even EU directives are trying to help. but there is nought for my time spend - apart from stupid things like please enter how much time you just spent on an activity. So as a starting list i want - To know what the TV was showing when. - What netflix was showing on what device - what youtube was showing - for my phone - what podcasts, what youtube etc, - same for social media (HN counts for me) - The Nintendo Switch kinda sorta gets it - there is a parent app that lets one set time limits on daily usage. but hahahahha it assumes you only have one child (per switch) - then use my GPS tag to show where was I and can I correspond that with an activity - gym, commute, walking across fields - I am fairly sure there is value in Alexa / similar voice monitoring working out what is happening in the house (it takes you on average 34 minutes from the first "get dressed for school" till the door finally bangs) Don't get me started on MOOPs And none of which has an API i know about. All because they don't want me to stop watching.

schlowmo 9y ago
> "just not from someone with their best interests at hear" Oh dear...I really wish your kids have the best parents in the world. I really do, my parents probably believed that too, but unfortunately they were not - surprise! But I'm really happy that I was born at least two decades too early for that shit. I hope kids can still outsmart their parents today. If not, we've lost.
- SimonPStevens 9y ago
  I think you should cut the guy some slack here. He is talking about working to keep his kids safe online. That sounds like responsible parenting to me. The internet is full of crazy awful stuff, and yeah sure I get that at some point you have to let them be independent and trust them, but we don't know how old his kids are, at younger ages there is certainly some protection required. And as they grow up and learn you can gradually give then more trust and freedom.