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This is slightly off-topic, but developments such as these really make me look forward to when Apple will finally get around to releasing their new Mac Pro (coy

by qubex 9y ago

This is slightly off-topic, but developments such as these really make me look forward to when Apple will finally get around to releasing their new Mac Pro (coyly quasi-announced as not being due for release in 2017, but in development supposedly for a late 2018 or early 2019). This kind of technology might not be revolutionary per se, but makes for a very solid technological basis to build a system on. If the Mac Pro turns out to be an iMac Pro divorced from the screen and with some internal expandability in a suitably fancy-looking case, I'll be very content.

vbezhenar 9y ago
I hope that Mac Pro would be good old case with standard components without extra price. I really like macOS but all Apple's computers are just terrible for me. Mac Pro is my last hope to stay in Apple ecosystem.
- qubex 9y ago
  Considering how long it is taking them to develop it, and considering the direction they have taken with their Emoji-keyboard MacBookPros with custom chips and now the architecture of the iMac Pro, the Mac Pro is going to be anything but standard.
  - gurkendoktor 9y ago
    But they have already developed a non-standard Mac Pro in 2013, and it is widely considered a failure. I'm not sure if they'll really make the same mistake twice?
    - scarface74 9y ago
      Its not just widely considered a failure, they publicly admitted it was a failure. https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/06/transcript-phil-schiller-craig-federighi-and-john-ternus-on-the-state-of-apples-pro-macs/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/06/transcript-phil-schiller-c... Craig Federighi: I think it’s fair to say, part of why we’re talking today, is that the Mac Pro — the current vintage that we introduced — we wanted to do something bold and different. In retrospect, it didn’t well suit some of the people we were trying to reach. It’s good for some; it’s an amazingly quiet machine, it’s a beautiful machine. But it does not address the full range of customers we wanna reach with Mac Pro. But I think we designed ourselves into a bit of a thermal corner, if you will. We designed a system that we thought with the kind of GPUs that at the time we thought we needed, and that we thought we could well serve with a two GPU architecture… that that was the thermal limit we needed, or the thermal capacity we needed. But workloads didn’t materialize to fit that as broadly as we hoped.
    - qubex 9y ago
      It was a failure because the thermal characteristics made it extremely difficult to expand. They’re not going to market something that is essentially an Apple-branded hackintosh devoid of custom components.
    - whywhywhywhy 9y ago
      Considering they identified one of the issues as designing themselves into a thermal corner and the next thing they do is design the iMac Pro with extreme thermal constraints too I'd be skeptical if they had learnt anything. Modern Apple doesn't backtrack lightly, just look how they're still pushing the butterfly keyboard despite it being breakable with single specks of dust.

by qubex 9y ago

vbezhenar 9y ago

I hope that Mac Pro would be good old case with standard components without extra price. I really like macOS but all Apple's computers are just terrible for me. Mac Pro is my last hope to stay in Apple ecosystem.

qubex 9y ago
Considering how long it is taking them to develop it, and considering the direction they have taken with their Emoji-keyboard MacBookPros with custom chips and now the architecture of the iMac Pro, the Mac Pro is going to be anything but standard.
- gurkendoktor 9y ago
  But they have already developed a non-standard Mac Pro in 2013, and it is widely considered a failure. I'm not sure if they'll really make the same mistake twice?
  - scarface74 9y ago
    Its not just widely considered a failure, they publicly admitted it was a failure. https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/06/transcript-phil-schiller-craig-federighi-and-john-ternus-on-the-state-of-apples-pro-macs/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/06/transcript-phil-schiller-c... Craig Federighi: I think it’s fair to say, part of why we’re talking today, is that the Mac Pro — the current vintage that we introduced — we wanted to do something bold and different. In retrospect, it didn’t well suit some of the people we were trying to reach. It’s good for some; it’s an amazingly quiet machine, it’s a beautiful machine. But it does not address the full range of customers we wanna reach with Mac Pro. But I think we designed ourselves into a bit of a thermal corner, if you will. We designed a system that we thought with the kind of GPUs that at the time we thought we needed, and that we thought we could well serve with a two GPU architecture… that that was the thermal limit we needed, or the thermal capacity we needed. But workloads didn’t materialize to fit that as broadly as we hoped.
  - qubex 9y ago
    It was a failure because the thermal characteristics made it extremely difficult to expand. They’re not going to market something that is essentially an Apple-branded hackintosh devoid of custom components.
  - whywhywhywhy 9y ago
    Considering they identified one of the issues as designing themselves into a thermal corner and the next thing they do is design the iMac Pro with extreme thermal constraints too I'd be skeptical if they had learnt anything. Modern Apple doesn't backtrack lightly, just look how they're still pushing the butterfly keyboard despite it being breakable with single specks of dust.