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> FN has also been known to murder French politicians. Do you have any sources on that? With all the things the media in France is saying about the FN, I don't

> FN has also been known to murder French politicians. Do you have any sources on that? With all the things the media in France is saying about the FN, I don't think they would have missed something so important.

fao_ 9y ago
> https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Front_National https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Front_National Nevertheless, and notwithstanding the racist murders committed by some members (see Brahim Bouarram thrown in the Seine, and Ibrahim Ali, shot), the FN continued its progress and even managed to gain some towns in 1995, such as Toulon and Orange, where, once more, such mayors managed to show their crass incompetence[3] and got booted in 2001 by the electors. Source for Brahim Bouarram mentioning FN: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/paris-crowds-gather-mark-killing-brahim-bouarram-170501205916744.html https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/paris-crowds-gather-m... On May 1, 1995, skinheads rallying with the far-right National Front (FN) threw Brahim Bouarram, a 29-year-old Frenchman of Moroccan descent, into the River Seine and disappeared into the crowds. [...] At the time of Bouarram's death, Jean-Marie Le Pen described the incident as "minor". [...] "The FN is an anti-Semitic, racist, xenophobic party," said Abdallah, also of the ATMF. "The normalisation of the ideas of the NF is worrying us. Even more so, it scares us that a large proportion of the army, gendarmerie and police vote for Marine Le Pen. We are scared for our kids who have brown, black and Arab faces when they get stopped by the police." Source for Ibrahim Ali mentioning FN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ibrahim_Ali https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ibrahim_Ali Root Source for Ibrahim Ali mentioning FN: https://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/20/france-shooting-attacks-idAFL6E8EK6OY20120320 https://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/20/france-shooting-a... [Ibrahim Ali] was walking with a group of ten other young men in Marseilles' XVth arrondissement, when they encountered three supporters of Jean-Marie Le Pen's Front National party, armed with guns, who had been posting campaign signs nearby. The latter group opened fire on them. Ibrahim Ali was shot in the back.
- baud147258 9y ago
  Thank you for your answer. That could be constructed as racist hate crime by party "supporters" (not even members), and could have nothing to do with the party itself. On the other hand, since it align with the party's ideology, it can be said that the FN has a part in it. But I don't see how it shows that the FN has murdered any politicians, which was what I was asking about
  - fao_ 9y ago
    > That could be constructed as racist hate crime by party "supporters" (not even members), and could have nothing to do with the party itself. On the other hand, since it align with the party's ideology, it can be said that the FN has a part in it. If your political party is inspiring murders, the party is at fault for that.

fao_ 9y ago

> https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Front_National https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Front_National Nevertheless, and notwithstanding the racist murders committed by some members (see Brahim Bouarram thrown in the Seine, and Ibrahim Ali, shot), the FN continued its progress and even managed to gain some towns in 1995, such as Toulon and Orange, where, once more, such mayors managed to show their crass incompetence[3] and got booted in 2001 by the electors. Source for Brahim Bouarram mentioning FN: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/paris-crowds-gather-mark-killing-brahim-bouarram-170501205916744.html https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/paris-crowds-gather-m... On May 1, 1995, skinheads rallying with the far-right National Front (FN) threw Brahim Bouarram, a 29-year-old Frenchman of Moroccan descent, into the River Seine and disappeared into the crowds. [...] At the time of Bouarram's death, Jean-Marie Le Pen described the incident as "minor". [...] "The FN is an anti-Semitic, racist, xenophobic party," said Abdallah, also of the ATMF. "The normalisation of the ideas of the NF is worrying us. Even more so, it scares us that a large proportion of the army, gendarmerie and police vote for Marine Le Pen. We are scared for our kids who have brown, black and Arab faces when they get stopped by the police." Source for Ibrahim Ali mentioning FN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ibrahim_Ali https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ibrahim_Ali Root Source for Ibrahim Ali mentioning FN: https://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/20/france-shooting-attacks-idAFL6E8EK6OY20120320 https://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/20/france-shooting-a... [Ibrahim Ali] was walking with a group of ten other young men in Marseilles' XVth arrondissement, when they encountered three supporters of Jean-Marie Le Pen's Front National party, armed with guns, who had been posting campaign signs nearby. The latter group opened fire on them. Ibrahim Ali was shot in the back.

baud147258 9y ago
Thank you for your answer. That could be constructed as racist hate crime by party "supporters" (not even members), and could have nothing to do with the party itself. On the other hand, since it align with the party's ideology, it can be said that the FN has a part in it. But I don't see how it shows that the FN has murdered any politicians, which was what I was asking about
- fao_ 9y ago
  > That could be constructed as racist hate crime by party "supporters" (not even members), and could have nothing to do with the party itself. On the other hand, since it align with the party's ideology, it can be said that the FN has a part in it. If your political party is inspiring murders, the party is at fault for that.