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The “DeepVariant” example exemplifies the problem with deep learning in biology: some exceptions (when actual imaging is involved) notwithstanding, we still hav
by klmr 9y ago
The “DeepVariant” example exemplifies the problem with deep learning in biology: some exceptions (when actual imaging is involved) notwithstanding, we still haven’t found a good use for it. Most problems that we can formulate in biology are solvable with linear classifiers: the models are purely additive. The nonlinearity of deep learning offers no benefit.
The article says that
> In tests, DeepVariant performed at least as well as conventional tools.
Which is technically correct but highly misleading. But a more honest way of saying this would be that
> DeepVariant performs no better than conventional tools, and given the nature of the problem there is no reason to expect further boosts in the future from this method.
This is pretty much what the rest of the field thinks, anyway (example of this view in [1]).
From a pure science point of view, DeepVariant is interesting: it applies a new technique to an old problem and shows that it works. This alone is exciting (to me personally at least). But in practical terms it’s useless; it does no better than existing methods and is far more complex and orders of magnitude less efficient.
[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2017/12/11/no-googles-new-ai-cant-build-your-genome-sequence/#7b636c6c5774 https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2017/12/11/no-go...
- EpicEng 9y ago>This is pretty much what the rest of the field thinks, anyway (example of this view in [1]). Yup. I'm not a CV engineer myself, but I work in between our CV folks and pure software engineering. I've worked on automatic labeling and classification of circulating tumor cells (focusing primary on the imaging system(s)) for the last five years. Every experienced CV person I've worked with or spoken with dismisses DL out of hand for what we're doing. The less experienced folk jump right to a DL solution without understanding the problem domain.
- xyhopguy 9y agoThe biggest complaint about DeepVariant is that it isn't even a CV problem. I mean you start with a bunch of images, but those get processed and turned into basecalls, which get aligned to the genome, and then turned into an image again (why though?) for DeepVariant. Interesting approach to say the least.