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Here's what a lot of you are saying: This treatment devised by sick people for sick people out of desperation doesn't make much sense to me as a healthy person
by youdontknowtho 9y ago
Here's what a lot of you are saying:
This treatment devised by sick people for sick people out of desperation doesn't make much sense to me as a healthy person. It doesn't feel very science-y when I think about it.
And a lot of you are quoting Pen and Teller. Good work, you can watch TV. Thanks for you input.
- alex_hitchins 9y agoI'd be interested to hear your science based recovery method. And what yardstick are you using for 'healthy'? Thanks.
- kelnos 9y agoI think the issue is that we don't really know how well it works. No one is denying that many people are helped by it, but studies as to how effective it is are lacking rigor, and AA itself is secretive about success/failure numbers, so it's hard to judge. There's enough evidence that it doesn't help a lot of people for it to make sense to want to quantify its effects and see if we can do better. And that's a problem when AA and 12-step programs are the only option for many people in many areas, and when courts can order people into these programs when they may not be the best path for the individual's particular case.
- finaliteration 9y agoSome of us “healthy” people have seen our parents, siblings, spouses, and/or friends go into programs like AA and NA and come out no better or even worse off than before. Our anecdotal evidence is just as good as yours.