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The best you can get is an organization that has a consistent and clear bias, which NPR has - also why people like BBC and the Economist. Additionally, I’d caut

The best you can get is an organization that has a consistent and clear bias, which NPR has - also why people like BBC and the Economist. Additionally, I’d caution against extrapolating NPR’s journalistic bias by their podcasts - it’s a podcast, whereas radio content was produced expressly in line with their journalistic and reporting standards (I don’t listen to any of their podcasts dealing with politics so I couldn’t judge those).

humanrebar 9y ago
NPR doesn't own its bias, so I'm not sure I'd use the phrase "consistent and clear" to describe the NPR viewpoint. Here's NPR poorly representing the controversy over the Google memo this summer: https://www.npr.org/2017/08/08/542180434/google-fires-engineer-who-criticized-diversity-efforts https://www.npr.org/2017/08/08/542180434/google-fires-engine...
- SauciestGNU 9y ago
  I just read that transcript, and I think it is the least histrionic and probably most charitable to Damore that has come out of the mainstream media. I read the memo (in full, with annotations), and I think it is being properly represented in this interview. Without relitigating the whole kerfuffle, I believe that whether or not you think the media is fair to Damore depends on whether or not you are in agreement with the presuppositions he held when writing the memo.
  - humanrebar 9y ago
    I don't agree with the presuppositions. I also think his views were not fairly summarized, which is critical to the story since his expression of his thoughts are what got him fired. If you mess up that reporting, the story becomes "Google fired a crypto-sexist guy and sexist people are grumpy about it", which is pretty close to how the NPR story reads to me. Grading on a curve, maybe NPR did fine (I've ready Fox News accounts that read similarly), but on topic, some people (Thiel) think there's some monoculture in the media that needs disrupted.

humanrebar 9y ago

NPR doesn't own its bias, so I'm not sure I'd use the phrase "consistent and clear" to describe the NPR viewpoint. Here's NPR poorly representing the controversy over the Google memo this summer: https://www.npr.org/2017/08/08/542180434/google-fires-engineer-who-criticized-diversity-efforts https://www.npr.org/2017/08/08/542180434/google-fires-engine...

SauciestGNU 9y ago
I just read that transcript, and I think it is the least histrionic and probably most charitable to Damore that has come out of the mainstream media. I read the memo (in full, with annotations), and I think it is being properly represented in this interview. Without relitigating the whole kerfuffle, I believe that whether or not you think the media is fair to Damore depends on whether or not you are in agreement with the presuppositions he held when writing the memo.
- humanrebar 9y ago
  I don't agree with the presuppositions. I also think his views were not fairly summarized, which is critical to the story since his expression of his thoughts are what got him fired. If you mess up that reporting, the story becomes "Google fired a crypto-sexist guy and sexist people are grumpy about it", which is pretty close to how the NPR story reads to me. Grading on a curve, maybe NPR did fine (I've ready Fox News accounts that read similarly), but on topic, some people (Thiel) think there's some monoculture in the media that needs disrupted.