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Yes, indeed. You're being sarcastic, enjoying how you've supposedly caught all those SJWs in hypocrisy. Yet Google news finds more than 600 articles with title

Yes, indeed. You're being sarcastic, enjoying how you've supposedly caught all those SJWs in hypocrisy. Yet Google news finds more than 600 articles with titles such as: - Male teacher drought may hurt boys - How do we recruit boys into female-dominated professions? - Our schools are failing boys, which is bad news for Britain - Most schools would love to have more male teachers to serve as role models for boys, but not many volunteer. (first line of article, not headline) etc... https://www.google.com/search?rls=en&biw=1324&bih=1190&tbm=nws&q=%22more+male+teachers%22&oq=%22more+male+teachers%22 https://www.google.com/search?rls=en&biw=1324&bih=1190&tbm=n... The higher salaries for the male teachers this very article is about may actually be a sign for Google's attempts to improve the gender ratio.

ravenstine 9y ago
Respectfully, do you really believe that? I find that doubtful. Google has zero to gain from doing so.
- shaki-dora 9y ago
  > Respectfully, do you really believe that? I have no knowledge of how these salaries are set. It's possible they're decided individually, because these jobs are rather different than most others at Google. In that case, I could imagine the people in charge of the daycare facilities trying to attract more men and (possibly without much active thought) making higher offers to them.
Anderkent 9y ago
The difference is in how the issue is phrased. You usually see people argue that the tech imbalance is in men/nerds/whoever discriminating against women and pushing them out. You usually see the school teaching problem phrased as "men don't want to work as teachers". Those two phrasings call for completely different action.
- shaki-dora 9y ago
  > You usually see people argue that the tech imbalance is in men/nerds/whoever discriminating against women Now we're moving the goalpost. But anyway, I doubt your impression. ["women in it" discrimination] get 1.2 million hits on google, while ["women in it" culture] gets 37.5 million hits. Note that "changing culture" means nothing else but "making the job more attractive for women", or "women don't want to work in IT". Here's the first headline I get on Google News for ["women in IT"]: "Why We Should Encourage More Women to Work in IT" That's awfully close to the "How do we recruit boys[..]" I cited above.
  - badwulf 9y ago
    > Now we're moving the goalpost. Can you elaborate on this? The goalpost looks static to me. > get 1.2 million hits on google Citing Google trends doesn't prove anything. Nobody cares about what the internet's vocal minority has to say: http://www.businessinsider.com/10-of-twitter-users-account-for-90-of-twitter-activity-2009-6?IR=T http://www.businessinsider.com/10-of-twitter-users-account-f... You can't even be certain that Google Search itself is unbiased: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/11/22/pers-n22.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/11/22/pers-n22.html The comment you were replying to pointed out the huge hypocrisy we see when talking about gender imbalance in industries.
scaryspooky 9y ago
I've tried to be involved in school districts, and every single time there is a group of women who assume all men are pedophiles and make it extremely uncomfortable for any male. It's simply not worth the harassment and suffering to attempt to be involved in child education if you're a male.

ravenstine 9y ago

Respectfully, do you really believe that? I find that doubtful. Google has zero to gain from doing so.

shaki-dora 9y ago
> Respectfully, do you really believe that? I have no knowledge of how these salaries are set. It's possible they're decided individually, because these jobs are rather different than most others at Google. In that case, I could imagine the people in charge of the daycare facilities trying to attract more men and (possibly without much active thought) making higher offers to them.

Anderkent 9y ago

The difference is in how the issue is phrased. You usually see people argue that the tech imbalance is in men/nerds/whoever discriminating against women and pushing them out. You usually see the school teaching problem phrased as "men don't want to work as teachers". Those two phrasings call for completely different action.

shaki-dora 9y ago
> You usually see people argue that the tech imbalance is in men/nerds/whoever discriminating against women Now we're moving the goalpost. But anyway, I doubt your impression. ["women in it" discrimination] get 1.2 million hits on google, while ["women in it" culture] gets 37.5 million hits. Note that "changing culture" means nothing else but "making the job more attractive for women", or "women don't want to work in IT". Here's the first headline I get on Google News for ["women in IT"]: "Why We Should Encourage More Women to Work in IT" That's awfully close to the "How do we recruit boys[..]" I cited above.
- badwulf 9y ago
  > Now we're moving the goalpost. Can you elaborate on this? The goalpost looks static to me. > get 1.2 million hits on google Citing Google trends doesn't prove anything. Nobody cares about what the internet's vocal minority has to say: http://www.businessinsider.com/10-of-twitter-users-account-for-90-of-twitter-activity-2009-6?IR=T http://www.businessinsider.com/10-of-twitter-users-account-f... You can't even be certain that Google Search itself is unbiased: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/11/22/pers-n22.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/11/22/pers-n22.html The comment you were replying to pointed out the huge hypocrisy we see when talking about gender imbalance in industries.

scaryspooky 9y ago

I've tried to be involved in school districts, and every single time there is a group of women who assume all men are pedophiles and make it extremely uncomfortable for any male. It's simply not worth the harassment and suffering to attempt to be involved in child education if you're a male.